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Ok here is my first crack at a 1500 point list.

E. Champ (Uphold the ...Emp)
100

Reclusiarch - bolt pistol, Holy Orb of Antioch, Bionics, Termie Honors, Frag
127

Crusader Squad CCW/BP #1 - 10x Initiates, 10x Neophytes, P. Fist, Melta
285

Crusader Squad CCW/BP #2 - 10x Initiates, 9x Neophytes, P. Fist, Melta
275

Assault Squad - 8x, P.Fist, 2x Plasma Pistols, 2x Shields, Meltabombs
223

Bike Squad - 3x Bikes, 1x Attack Bike, 3x Melta, 1x Multi-Melta
191

Speeder Squad - 2x Speeder w/heavy bolter, Upgrade to Tornado w/assault cannons
160

Dreadnought - Lascannon, Missle Launcher, Smoke, Searchlight
139

Total: 1500

ok..thoughts???
I would love to add or in the future use, Terminators with two assault cannons, LRC, infiltrating sword brethren...but i figure this is a start.
Thanks,
D.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/06/19 13:50:59


 
   
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Assault squads don't benefit from BT rules.
Bike squads with meltas are good enough for tank busting, don't need the extra.
Split the speeders up into squadrons.
Bring more dreads or none.
Bionics...ugh. Don't bother.
Witch vow is generally best for free moves...
Termies are great.
LRC for the troops with blessed hull, but if you do...bring two.
Sword brethren are ok, but termies are generally better.

   
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Greenville

I concur with Stelek on all his points.

Here are a couple of addendums to consider:

Attack Bike Squadrons of 2 are a little tougher than a Bike Squadron of 3, at the expense of a Melta Weapon. The increased range (from 3 Meltaguns to 2 Multi-Meltas) is definitely a boon.

Sword Brethren will become a good bit better in 5th, if I read the prerelease copy at my FLGS. Infiltrate will give them the Outflank option, giving them a chance of reaching and enemy squad intact.

You can also dish out Terminator Honors on a 1-by-1 basis, meaning you only have to pay for it on the models that count (i.e., the Lightning Claw Pair SB and the Power Weapon SB).

In short, they're better, but Terminators are still your best bet. Assuming they don't nerf them in the FAQ, BT Termies will be the only ones that can be fielded in squads of 6 or more, and will be able to take more than one heavy weapon (after C:SM).

CK

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ok here is a revised version....

Emp. Champ (Accept any challenge)
140

Crusader Squad CCW/BP #1 - 9x Initiates, P. Fist, Melta....Rhino Ex. Armor, smoke
227

Master of Sanctity - bolt pistol, Holy Orb of Antioch, 3x Cenobytes
151

Crusader Squad CCW/BP #2 - 10x Initiates, 10x Neophytes, P. Fist, Melta
285

Assault Squad - 9x, P.Fist, 2x Plasma Pistols, 1x Shields, meltabombs
242

Bike Squad - 2x Attack Bike, 2x Multi-Melta
130

Speeder - 2x Speeder w/heavy bolter, Upgrade to Tornado w/assault cannon
160

Dreadnought - Venerable, Tank Hunter, Lascannon, Missle Launcher
165

Total: 1500

ok...for 155 points i could move around something for a Vindicator w/PoMS for 155 points...
thoughts??
   
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Hamburg

I'd take another Dread for shooty support.
The shield in the Assault squad is useless, at least in the 4th ed.
You could free some points by taking a Reclusiarch instead of a MoS.
Rhinos are death traps, drop it and let the squad footslog.

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