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So, I think I'm narrowing down my choice to "Green Tide" Orks, or "Elite Fire Warriors" Tau. Both should present me with some good modeling opportunities and would be about equalish cost to build I think. Oh, and I don't think either one completely sucks either even though they might be less than optimal (i face alot less av14 than most people). Vote for which one I should build!*

1750 Pts - Tau Empire Roster - Elite Fire Warriors

1 Commander Shadowsun @ 175 Pts
Two Fusion Blasters; Multi-Tracker; Advanced Target Lock; Bonding Knife; Drone Controller
1 Command-link Drone @ [0] Pts
2 Shield Drones @ [0] Pts
Shield Generator (x2)

11 Fire Warrior @ 150 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Pulse Carbine (x3); Pulse Rifle (x8)
1 Shas'ui @ [40] Pts
Markerlight; Bonding Knife; Hard-wired Target Lock; Pulse Carbine

11 Fire Warrior @ 150 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Pulse Carbine (x3); Pulse Rifle (x8)
1 Shas'ui @ [40] Pts
Markerlight; Bonding Knife; Hard-wired Target Lock; Pulse Carbine

11 Fire Warrior @ 270 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Pulse Carbine (x3); Pulse Rifle (x8)
1 Devilfish @ [120] Pts
Burst Cannon; Gun Drones; Seeker Missle (x2); Decoy Launchers; Disruption Pod; Landing Gear; Multi-Tracker
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shas'ui @ [40] Pts
Markerlight; Bonding Knife; Hard-wired Target Lock; Pulse Carbine

3 Pathfinder @ 188 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Markerlight (x3); Pulse Carbine (x3)
1 Devilfish @ [120] Pts
Burst Cannon; Gun Drones; Seeker Missle (x2); Decoy Launchers; Disruption Pod; Landing Gear; Marker Beacon; Multi-Tracker
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shas'ui @ [32] Pts
Bonding Knife; Hard-wired Target Lock; Markerlight; Pulse Carbine

3 Pathfinder @ 188 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Markerlight (x3); Pulse Carbine (x3)
1 Devilfish @ [120] Pts
Burst Cannon; Gun Drones; Seeker Missle (x2); Decoy Launchers; Disruption Pod; Landing Gear; Marker Beacon; Multi-Tracker
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shas'ui @ [32] Pts
Bonding Knife; Hard-wired Target Lock; Markerlight; Pulse Carbine

3 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 300 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x3); Gun Drones (x3); Decoy Launchers (x3); Disruption Pod (x3); Seeker Missle (x6); Targeting Array (x3)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

3 Stealthsuits @ 167 Pts
Add Team Leader; Burst Cannon (x3)
1 Team Leader @ [77] Pts
Bonding Knife; Fusion Blaster; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Hard-wired Target Lock; Markerlight; Gun Drone; Gun Drone
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

1 Sniper Drone Team @ 80 Pts
Drone Controller; Networked Markerlight; Pulse Pistol; Stealth Field Generator; Targeting Array
3 Sniper Drones @ [0] Pts
Rail Rifle and Target Lock (x3); Stealth Field Generator; Targeting Array

1 Sniper Drone Team @ 80 Pts
Drone Controller; Networked Markerlight; Pulse Pistol; Stealth Field Generator; Targeting Array
3 Sniper Drones @ [0] Pts
Rail Rifle and Target Lock (x3); Stealth Field Generator; Targeting Array

Total Roster Cost: 1748

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1750 Pts - Orks Roster - Green Tide

1 Warboss @ 115 Pts
Power Klaw; Shoota; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; 'Eavy Armour; Attack Squig; Cybork Body

1 Big Mek @ 105 Pts
Burna; Kustom Force Field; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Mek's Tools

14 Snakebite Kommandos @ 220 Pts
Choppa & Slugga; Burna (x2); Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Infiltrate; Mob Rule; Move Through Cover; Waaagh!
1 Kommando Nob @ [50] Pts
Power Klaw; Slugga; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Infiltrate; Mob Rule; Move Through Cover; Waaagh!; Bosspole

14 Blood Axe Kommandos @ 220 Pts
Choppa & Slugga; Burna (x2); Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Infiltrate; Mob Rule; Move Through Cover; Waaagh!
1 Kommando Nob @ [50] Pts
Power Klaw; Slugga; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Infiltrate; Mob Rule; Move Through Cover; Waaagh!; Bosspole

15 Gretchin @ 55 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Squig Hound

15 Gretchin @ 55 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Squig Hound

29 Bad Moon Boyz @ 245 Pts
Rokkit Launcha (x3); Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Boyz Nob @ [41] Pts
Power Klaw; Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!

29 Death Skull Boyz @ 245 Pts
Rokkit Launcha (x3); Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Boyz Nob @ [41] Pts
Power Klaw; Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!

29 Goff Boyz @ 245 Pts
Rokkit Launcha (x3); Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Boyz Nob @ [41] Pts
Power Klaw; Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!

29 More Goff Boyz @ 245 Pts
Choppa & Slugga; Rokkit Launcha (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Boyz Nob @ [41] Pts
Power Klaw; Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!

Total Roster Cost: 1750

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Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Lone Wolf Development, Inc. All rights reserved.


* I reserve the right to ignore the results and play whichever I want or something else entirely.

The 28 ork squad needs to be 29 to run 3 rokkits, fyi.

Oh and deleting this makes lists easier to read:

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Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Lone Wolf Development, Inc. All rights reserved.

Everyone can tell a AB roster when it shows up, I think.

I don't think much of the fire warrior gunline army, so I'd say go with the Orks.

Question, why the markerlight on the fire warrior team if you are taking two teams of pathfinders?

No railguns??? I see your seekers and fusion blasters but you're avoiding the biggest guns we've got!

I voted Orks.

I must have lost that Ork when I was messing with the PK Nobs in with Shoota Boyz. Army Builder still doesn't like it. Thanks for pointing that out.

As far as the Army Builder copyright, well, I really love the product, so I figure I'll leave those two little lines in there to give em their props.

Oh, and I should have pointed it out. It's not really a Tau gun line. The two Fire Warrior squads without Devilfish will be promptly stealing their rides from the Pathfinders'. The points I saved doing that is enough to afford the third squad of warriors.

Pathfinders do not save points.

They cost. Alot.

I ment I was taking Pathfinders anyways, and was refering to saving points by letting the Fire Warriors use the Devilfish that I am required to purchase with them instead of buying Devilfish dedicated to the Fire Warriors.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the codex say that squads can not share transports?

In 5E you can share transports willy nilly as you see fit and the models fit/are allowed within.

Really! That's good...even if the individual codex says otherwise?

orks are way tigher than tau and they look cooler and are more indimidating, so i say screw the greater good and go with the orks.

ArmoredReaper wrote:orks are way tigher than tau and they look cooler and are more indimidating, so i say screw the greater good and go with the orks.

Boo!!! Don't listen to him! His avatar looks like poo!!!

Your ork army lacks support, if you were to use that list but you have a great tau list but could benifit from a braodside maybe IMHO

What kind of support are you talking about?

I just thought I would go ahead and mention it. I decided I would get Tau. I figure Orks would run too similar to my `Nids, what with a hoard running across the table. I'd get more marines and do more of a foot trooper SAFHish list and go less mechanized, play the Tau as the mech force, and Necrons as my usual freakish Necron list of the week ends up.

So right befor buy the first box of Fire Warriors when I'm doing some final price compairsons one of the local Ork players comes over. We get to talking about some of the conversons and stuff I have in mind, which tips the scale in my mind just enough that tonight I purchased my first box of Boyz. I won't allow myself to buy anymore untill these first boyz are painted, so we'll see how well this works out.

Yeah! Score one for the Greater Good!