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Greetings,
Well my Local Gameing store is throwing a going away 4th ed game set a 1500 pts.
Im haveing problems deciding on my 1500 point list. Im going Csm and currently have a pretty solid 2k list, but I cant decide what to shave off or take out from it to make it 1500 worthy.

Here is my current 2k list..

Hq:
Daemon Prince..............................110 pts
Wings............................................20 pts
Mark of Slaanesh............................5 pts
Los............................................... 20pts
Total: 155 pts


Hq:
Daemon Prince..............................110 pts
Wings............................................20 pts
Mark of Slaanesh............................5 pts
Los............................................... 20pts
Total: 155 pts

TROOP:
Plague Marine x 7...........................161 pts
Plague Champion............................15 pts
Power Fist.......................................25 pts
Plasma Gun x2...................................30 pts
Per Icon..........................................5 pts
Total: 236 pts

Plague Marine x 7...........................161 pts
Plague Champion............................15 pts
Power Fist.......................................25 pts
Plasma Gun x2...................................30 pts
Per Icon..........................................5 pts
Total: 236 pts

Plague Marine x 7...........................161 pts
Plague Champion............................15 pts
Power Fist.......................................25 pts
Plasma Gun x2...................................30 pts
Per Icon..........................................5 pts
Total: 236 pts

Plague Marine x 7...........................161 pts
Plague Champion............................15 pts
Power Fist.......................................25 pts
Plasma Gun x2...................................30 pts
Per Icon..........................................5 pts
Total: 236 pts

Heavy Support:
Obliterator Cult x3........................225 pts

Obliterator Cult x3........................225 pts

Total: 450 Pts

Elite:
Chaos Terminators x7..........................210pts
Icon Of Khorne....................................30 pts
Power Fist x2.......................................20 pts
Combi Plasma Weapon x7.....................35 pts
Total: 295 points

Grand Total: 1999 points

So I was thinking takeing out the termies, but then id lose a ton of heavy hitters and one of my tricks. I could take out the some troops, but it would take almost 2 full troop choices (14 guys) out.

Would it be better to change the marines to basic CSM (Which would up the squads to 10 men each for the same points roughly)
I understnad that basic CSM are not preferred, but at the point level it migh be better to do it this way perhaps?

Or I could throw caution to the wind and make a brand new list from the ground up. (Perhaps centered around Kharn and a Lash DP?)

Like I said, im unsure what to do next and any advice will be helpful.

Either split the oblits in 3 squads with 2, or drop something(a troops squad probably) and run 3x3

7 Plaguemarines survive a lot more then 10 anyway, so there really isnt much reason to swap with basic CSM.

i think you have to drop the terminators, 1 squad of plague marines and all the icons from your squads (since you no longer have any terminators). that should leave you with 1454, 46pts left to grap another 2 plague marines for 2 squads.

alternatively you could drop 2 squads of plague marines, the icons from the other squads and 3 combi-weapons from the terminators.

it depends what your likely to be facing. if there are usuallu lots of MCs running about then keep the terminators, otherwise drop them.

you do also need to split your oblits up into 3 squads of 2 each

Anyway, delete the individual pt costs, its IP of GW, otherwise GW could shut down this site.

Keep the 2 DPs and the 6 Obliterators, better take 3x2 squads.
Two larger Plague Marine squads should suffice.
Fill the rest with Termies.