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I was shuffling points around a 2000 pt list for a 4th ed RTT when I got down to comparing a Marshal with Terminator Honors and a combat shield versus a Marshal with Terminator Armor. I figured I was down to weighing whether I wanted a 2+ save or if I wanted the ability to have a Sweeping Advance.

Then I thought (and here's my question)

A) Since the IC counts as a seperate unit and gets resolved that way for CC, would the squad he charged in with be able to have a Sweeping Advance, provided that they don't have Terminator Armor?

B) If that were the case, then wouldn't I make two separate sweeping advance rolls if the IC and the squad are both wearing power armor?

I just wanted to make sure I understood this completely before I make a fool out of myself at a tournament. I'd rather do that here.

Marshal_Gus wrote:I was shuffling points around a 2000 pt list for a 4th ed RTT when I got down to comparing a Marshal with Terminator Honors and a combat shield versus a Marshal with Terminator Armor. I figured I was down to weighing whether I wanted a 2+ save or if I wanted the ability to have a Sweeping Advance.

Then I thought (and here's my question)

A) Since the IC counts as a seperate unit and gets resolved that way for CC, would the squad he charged in with be able to have a Sweeping Advance, provided that they don't have Terminator Armor?

B) If that were the case, then wouldn't I make two separate sweeping advance rolls if the IC and the squad are both wearing power armor?

I just wanted to make sure I understood this completely before I make a fool out of myself at a tournament. I'd rather do that here.

ICs only count as a separate unit when resolving their ATTACKS. When it comes to Leadership tests, sweeping advances, etc. they count as being part of the unit they are joined to.

So yes, a single model in terminator armor will stop the entire unit he is joined to from making a sweeping advance.