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I'm going to start designing some new structure kits for 40K. What do folks want? Large buildings with few or no windows? Extra tall bunkers with firing platforms on top? More ruin structures, perhaps with interior walls that can be shifted in between games? My current kits can be seen at www.flyingtricycle.com

I've got a big shipment of plywood coming in and I want to make some terrain that will work well in 5th edition. I'm open to suggestions, though super large kits like cathedrals, palaces, or orbital defence lasers are not want I want to start with initially. Landing pads, towers and bunkers, fortified ork adobes, etc... are more the idea. Let me know what you want and I might make it a kit. If it's a really good idea I'll send you the kit.

Gimme some good stuff!

Usually I say that anyone can make walls out of foamcore, plywood, plasticard etc.

What we need are doors, windows, firing slits, gargoyles, skulls and other elements to decorate those walls.

So I think packs of high tech blast doors, gothic windows, decorations and railings would be the most practical stuff.

PS just saw your site, great stuff up there!

Nice stuff there Krak.

As for kool 40k Terrain- What about the Idea of

"Easily Stackable floors"-so if you wanted to, you could have a 6-7 story Building?

If the tops and bottoms of each floor are 'tongue in groove' so to speak I would buy heaps for our 40k/Apocalypse City Fights.

Kid Kyoto has pretty much hit the nail in the head though-Building Embellishments-great stuff.

Big and bulky things, things that can block line of sight for the new edition.

generic building bits, e.g. floors,wall pannels which aren't quite as stylised as GWs, crane arms/trussing etc. Railway bridges are too expensive to get a decent sized one. I'm about to start on a sort of battlenight construction facility, but the interior is gonna be bland due to a lack of detailed parts at a reasonable price (I'm on a very tight budget, just about to get a mortgage!)

Something I never see enough of - sci-fi street furnishings! Have they done away with advertising hordings, traffic lights, fire hydrants, dumpsters, store-fronts, cantinas, sidewalks and lamp posts in the 41st millennium? I can get modern, medieval and near-future stuff, but I've not seen much far-future equivalents.

If the 40k universe still has military technology that makes stuff from 1918 look current, then surely the non-military tech will look pretty retro too?

Hard to think of specific examples: I haven't a clue what a 41st millennium lampost might look like, but it would be a fun exercise to think of!

I like the idea of street fixings, furniture might also be handy.

Well my dream terrain item (probably not doable in plywood) is cars.

Look at a street and cars are an important feature but GW cities seem to be pedestrian paradises.

Larger(ish) buildings for some good old-fashioned, room-to-room fighting; al la Stalingrad.

All excellent ideas. I am limited to engraving and cutting plywood or acrylic plastic, so vehicles and lamposts are best left to casting methods. My engraving table is limited to 12" x 24" sheets of material. I can make window frames and doors, stair stringers and gantry frames, but would modelers buy a bagful of mixed stuff, or should I offer it in lots of individual items, like 50 window frames?

I do a stackable kit in my res-unit two presently. I could do more, but how many games would require a building taller than 12", for example? A bridge kit is also one I was thinking of, suspension style with towers, ala spider man. I could make it fairly large and sell it in sections, so you could build it as long as you like.

What about a factory style building with a couple of large entrances ground floor but no windows, and an interior second floor walkway with windows all around? Plenty of gaming opportunities there I woud think, with sniper squads up high and tanks driving front to back and peeking out from inside.

I think a scenerey upgrade kit, with sci-fi doors, door frames, railings, and fiddly bits would be something I'd buy.

Something to make the blocky stuff I can build look neat and polished.

Also, do you have any pictures of your tokens, and pics of your pill boxes with models for scale?

Gonna try an image of the tokens here...



I'll have to take some more shots of the bunkers and defence line.

Funny thing, I'm pretty sure I was the first to come up with these, then Galeforce Nine did some. Andy Chambers was at Gen-Con a few years ago and worked me a deal for 20 sets or so. Now GW has fancy green tokens with their box set. Sincerest form of flattery, right? LOL

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I like the idea of street fixings, furniture might also be handy.

Well my dream terrain item (probably not doable in plywood) is cars.

Look at a street and cars are an important feature but GW cities seem to be pedestrian paradises.

I think the Imperium of man is following God Emperor Leto's advise that, "A population on foot is easier to control".

I for one, would love to have a "mixed bag" option with doors, windows, and other building accessories to adorn my scratch built buildings.

Very nice terrain offerings. I agree it would be cool to have some generic upgrade packs for terrain (gothic stuff, cogs and pipe fittings, computer consoles, etc) but since that isn't the kind of thing that you do, what about non-imperial terrain?

Tyranids would probably not be possible via etching and eldar and tau's nonlinear and rounded corners would be problematic. But necron, ork and chaos stuff should be doable.

As long as I could stay clear of any iconagraphy xenos terrain would be cool. Ork style forts, chaos spiky structures, and necron monolithic buildings come to mind right away. What about starship/space hulk/hive terrain? Rather than buildings per se you would be fighting inside a giant structure, with engines, elevated walkways, cranes, big guns, etc...

Something that I'd really likt to see:

A ruined Tank Factory.

It would be one "floor" in height, but that "floor" would be as tall as 2 typical floors.
A huge set of double doors (could easily be made movable) on the front, where they wheeled the tanks out.
Imagine your "Res Unit 3" with only 2 stories, no floors between "levels" and huge double doors.
Being one floor, it would have LARGE windows near the floor, but bare walls higher up. KWIM?

Perhaps there could be walkways around the edges and interior pieces to give it flavor.

I'm thinking:

--A ruined Crane, similar in appearance to the Comm Tower on your Comm Relay Station
--Interior walkways smilar to your Elevated walkway
--Also, I noticed that there are eagle-LIKE pieces in the elevated walkway (where the supports meet the walkway). Something like this would be nice as a decorative piece to add to the exterior walls and doors.
-- Tank "pieces"... Side armor plates, track assemblies, etc

If you REALLY wanted to be ambitious, I could spout some ideas for a Titan hanger. Yeah!!!!!

So, what do you think of the idea?


Eric

I remeber in an old WD 40K battle report they had a massive factory terrain peice (and I mean massive!). IIRC it must have been 3 feet long, I'd like to see some huge buildings like that.

Yeah Magickal, I'm thinking something along those lines, but limit the window space on the lower level, and add windows all the way around the top level. This is typical of a lot of industrial buildings where I live. The factory floor typically needs the wall space for storage and large machinery/equipment, while the windows around the top of the structure add ambient light and vents warm air from the floor area. I think it would make for great game play, as units could stay down low inside the structure to keep out of sight, or move to the upper levels to good firing positions.

I could make an enormous kit out of this, but the cost would also be big. How many of you would want a huge factory shell? My res-unit 1 and 3 structures are 13"x10"x10", and run $40.00 each. I price my kits primarily on how many 12" x 24" sheets of material it requires. A three foot long factory shell could potentially use 6-8 times the material of one res-unit. Obviously I wouldn't be able to charge $320.00 for a model kit, but what would you think is a fair price?

Now a two foot kit is still pretty large on the table, but would use half the material. I could make the shell of the building with removable roof, and also include stairs, large and small doors, and walkways. Would anyone be willing to pay $80.00 to $100.00 for something like this? I'll knock some drawings together and post them...

Trenches. Like the FW ones but cheaper.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

What I would like to see, in a perfect world are just 2 things. Industrial terrain complete with storage tanks, walkways, lots pf pipes etc., arbites precinct buildings and hab units. There really aren't any suitable run of the mill, working class residential kits out there that say, I belong in a dark sci-fi space opera setting.

Krak_kirby wrote:Gonna try an image of the tokens here...

Holy cow- I own a set of those! They've seen a lot of happy use. I bought red ones at an RTT years ago and every time in recent years somebody's asked where I got them, I could never remember. Now I have an answer.

Two suggestions for product improvements on the tokens:
1. I had to paint white in all the inset portions of the set I bought as the contrast wasn't quite high enough to read all of them well.
2. Felt or some other padding material on the bottom so you can put them on top of vehicle models w/o your opponent getting paranoid about you scratching their paintjob.

As far as terrain, I'll second (or is it up to fifth or sixth) the call for bitz to add on to existing terrain projects. KK's got it exactly right- making basic structures is relatively easy to do oneself, but having nice details to add on to punch them up would be great.

Krak_kirby wrote:I'm going to start designing some new structure kits for 40K. What do folks want? Large buildings with few or no windows? Extra tall bunkers with firing platforms on top? More ruin structures, perhaps with interior walls that can be shifted in between games? My current kits can be seen at www.flyingtricycle.com

I've got a big shipment of plywood coming in and I want to make some terrain that will work well in 5th edition. I'm open to suggestions, though super large kits like cathedrals, palaces, or orbital defence lasers are not want I want to start with initially. Landing pads, towers and bunkers, fortified ork adobes, etc... are more the idea. Let me know what you want and I might make it a kit. If it's a really good idea I'll send you the kit.

Gimme some good stuff!

Buildings for the Aliens of 40K.

Dark Eldar spyers
Tau buildings of the sort from DOW
Eldar Craftworld spyers
Ork adobe huts, or ramshackle " Forts" same look as the cardstock, but in detailed plastic
Chaos defiled housings, of the sort like Hellraser, or from Farscape.
Necron Bulings

General battlefield stuff.
Trenchlines
Barbed wire lines
minefields
wrecked buildings ( huts, bunkers, housing units)
Standard Templet Constructs(STC's)
Deathworld hovels, kinda like in Necromunda, or in the Gaunts Ghosts or other books

Other ones to consider- High rise one two and three level gothic buildings
Bridges, road sections, High level buildings, such as Ziggurats, or Inca Pyramids

For fantacy , Windmill and/or watermill and a ship wreck.
For 40K , Raised roadway , obalisks , tank emplacements , floor panals to match up with GW buildings , "titan" wreckage , train track and boxcar wreckage

Wow, terrific response from folks! I'm steering clear of fantasy buildings at the moment, as engraved detail like cobblestone and planks increases the run time on my laser almost 400% over non engraved. I'm going to update my website to show dimensions on my existing kits, which I should have done long ago. Most of the kits are larger than they look, in particular the res units. I wanted terrain large enough for multiple assaults, with assymetry in the layout for flexible gameplay. My elevated walkway has the option to run pvc pipe underneath the straight sections, to limit or redirect vehicles. Alternatively, panels can be inserted to make a wall with a parapet. I haven't described in detail, or shown images enough of my current line.

With 5th edition coming up, I feel I should work on some mid and large size structures. A factory, and a landing pad/tower strike me as appropriate to the missions and environment. As I get going I'll try some xenos kits, within the limits of my equipment and materials. I appreciate all the input, keep it coming! I'll post some images as I get kits designed and prototyped...

Jezrael wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I like the idea of street fixings, furniture might also be handy.

Well my dream terrain item (probably not doable in plywood) is cars.

Look at a street and cars are an important feature but GW cities seem to be pedestrian paradises.

I think the Imperium of man is following God Emperor Leto's advise that, "A population on foot is easier to control".

Nice reference.

Krak_kirby wrote:Wow, terrific response from folks! I'm steering clear of fantasy buildings at the moment, as engraved detail like cobblestone and planks increases the run time on my laser almost 400% over non engraved. I'm going to update my website to show dimensions on my existing kits, which I should have done long ago. Most of the kits are larger than they look, in particular the res units. I wanted terrain large enough for multiple assaults, with assymetry in the layout for flexible gameplay. My elevated walkway has the option to run pvc pipe underneath the straight sections, to limit or redirect vehicles. Alternatively, panels can be inserted to make a wall with a parapet. I haven't described in detail, or shown images enough of my current line.

With 5th edition coming up, I feel I should work on some mid and large size structures. A factory, and a landing pad/tower strike me as appropriate to the missions and environment. As I get going I'll try some xenos kits, within the limits of my equipment and materials. I appreciate all the input, keep it coming! I'll post some images as I get kits designed and prototyped...

Thanks for offering us the chance.

The last thing I would add is MORE PICTURES and BETTER PICTURES. Put in lots of minis for scale (GW, Warmachine, Reaper etc). That would be even more useful than dimensions.

If you want to add fantasy details like cobblestone and planks, plastic and card/paper sheet is available from model railway and dollshouse suppliers.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Jezrael wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:I like the idea of street fixings, furniture might also be handy.

Well my dream terrain item (probably not doable in plywood) is cars.

Look at a street and cars are an important feature but GW cities seem to be pedestrian paradises.

I think the Imperium of man is following God Emperor Leto's advise that, "A population on foot is easier to control".

Nice reference.

Timely as well.