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I've been trying to think up a good list for my EC army and so far this is all ive got. feel free to rip it apart
Essentially im looking for a competitive list so be harsh.


Daemon Prince 155pts
Wings, MoS, Lash

5 Terminators 215pts
all lightning claws, IoS

5 Terminators 215pts
all lightning claws, IoS

Land Raider 220pts

Land Raider 220pts

6 Noise Marines 185pts
5 Sonic Blasters, 1 Blastmaster

6 Noise Marines 185pts
5 Sonic Blasters, 1 Blastmaster

6 Noise Marines 185pts
5 Sonic Blasters, 1 Blastmaster

6 Noise Marines 185pts
5 Sonic Blasters, 1 Blastmaster

Obliterator 75pts

Obliterator 75pts

Obliterator 75pts


Total: 1990pts

thanks.

Needs the second DP, only one in 2000 is gonna die faster then you can imagine. 2 will still die but at least it will last alot longer. Also imo blastmasters are too expensive(40 points onto a squad thats 6W strong and costs about 1/3 of the squads orginal price) so removing those would free up the points for the 2nd DP.

All LC termies will do squat... they'll get shot up before they reach CC and have no way of retailiating. Re-equip them to have TL bolters of combi-weapons, and you can free up points for a DP. Don't get rid of the blastmasters, they're very cost-effective. A heavy shot can take out half a squad of MEQs.

The LR will get shoot up? Landraiders are tough to break nowdays. I still think those units are too expensive but dont think they will be killed unless in melta range and then the LC termis will do their work wonderfully.

A blastmaster will usually hit 3-5 MEQs if it doesnt scatter, wich would actually leave it at less then 2 dead meqs if they are in cover. A 6 man strong unit will start taking hits on the blastmaster pretty much from the start and die to the last man pretty fast also, so its a bit of a risky buisness. It also ups the cost of the unit quite heavily, with about 33% of the cost.. henche I dont like it.

The army is low on models.
Although Land Raiders are tough in the 5th ed,
the Termies will not last long against cc specialists.

I would throw heavy flamers into the termi squads, you only loose one wound, save 5 points and HF's are simply sick in 5th with all the cover saves floating about. As for getting them in combat should not be tough with the land raiders as they are hard in 5th, but against certain armies equiped to deal with the LRs, you will be in trouble across the board as your strategy depends on them.

I personally don't like BMs as I do poorly with them, but Sonic Blasters are a bargain and a half and help you most with the hoard armies you will have a tough time with due to your low model count. And it saves you 100 pts too! Enough to put two of those squads in Rhinos to help support the Termies.

Thanks for the advice guys, i'll be posting a revised list shortly any and all further suggestions welcome.

I'd mount the NM into Rhinos, without sonic weaponry upgrades, led by an AC with doom siren, power weapon.
Rhinos are more useful in the 5th ed than in the 4th.

Ok so i've amended my list and now im 5pts over.

what should i lose? i was thinking i should just have one of the terminator squads with LCs and the other combi weapons. any further comments welcome, you've all been a great help.

Daemon Prince 155pts
Wings, MoS, Lash

Daemon Prince 155pts
Wings, MoS, Lash

5 Terminators 180pts
4 lightning claws, HF, IoS

5 Terminators 180pts
4 lightning claws, HF, IoS

Land Raider 220pts

Land Raider 220pts

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

Rhino 35pts

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

Rhino 35pts

Obliterator 75pts

Obliterator 75pts

Obliterator 75pts


Total: 2005pts

Looks good, but you might as well put the obliterators in one squad so you dont give up all those extra KPs. Since there is no half strength or anything anymore thats enough.

Ok revised list time!...without the terrible math of the one before... i must of been out of it..

here goes:

Daemon Prince 155pts
Lash, Wings, Mos

Daemon Prince 155pts
Lash, Wings, Mos

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

6 Noise Marines 150pts
6 Sonic Blasters

5 Terminators 210pts
Mos, 4 Pairs of Lightning Claws, Heavy Flamer

5 Terminators 220pts
MoS, Heavy Flamer, 4 Combi Weapons, 3 Powerfists

2 Obliterators 150pts

Land Raider 220pts

Land Raider 220pts

Rhino 35pts

Rhino 35pts


Total Points: 2,000


Thoughts?

I dunno, I kind of liked the first list. Adding a heavy flamer to each squad is a good idea but who said they'd get shot up and be useless? The landraider can move and allow them to assault! It's great! Though three individual oblits [still talking the first list] would really cause some problems in KP scenarios.

Rhinos are a good idea, I don't much like taking out the blastmasters as then your anti-tank [assuming your LRs are going to be transporting termies] suffers terribly.

In the last revised list, you've got a squad with 3 powerfists and the Icon of Slaanesh. Kind of a waste no? I would just let firepower take down any dreads or wraithlords and concentrate on destroying enemy troops squads with the termies.

Also, who suggested the unupgraded noisemarines, noise champion with doomsiren and power weapon? Christ when I had a list using those I got spammed and flamed until I was crispy, why is it suddenly a good idea?

-Spellbound

doom siren champions are your freind. ap3 marine killing template is nothing to be scoffed at. your rhino noise marine units should have them.

dont combine your oblits. you may end up wasting shots. unless you have more than 3 they should run single. (they get to shoot one at a time, so if you destroy that vehicle twice with that squad of 2 oblits, theres a wasted shot.)

another idea: the combi weapon terminators should DS and unload plasma death, make a unit of 10 NM with a champ and stick them in one of the raiders. I5 3 attacks on the charge can rough up alot of troops, add in a DS champ and you are set.

as was mentioned, the land raiders arent going to shoot much early in the game, so you essentially have 2 lascannons as your AT (well the princes as well if you want) untill the cargo is delivered. also, land raiders benefit from possestion. everything is twin-linked so the reduced BS is not a huge problem, and it will always be able to move.. they are going to get shot at alot, and they are being used as transports so there will be a few stuns involved.

Ztryder wrote:
dont combine your oblits. you may end up wasting shots. unless you have more than 3 they should run single. (they get to shoot one at a time, so if you destroy that vehicle twice with that squad of 2 oblits, theres a wasted shot.)

While true, Kill Point scenarios will really cost you if you run your oblits separately. One squad of 3 obliterators will give the enemy 2 KP when they are destroyed - 3 squads of 1 will give them 6 for pretty much the same effort.

It's really a balancing act that comes down to how well can you protect them, or eliminate the enemy's ability to take them out?

While true, Kill Point scenarios will really cost you if you run your oblits separately. One squad of 3 obliterators will give the enemy 2 KP when they are destroyed - 3 squads of 1 will give them 6 for pretty much the same effort.

It's really a balancing act that comes down to how well can you protect them, or eliminate the enemy's ability to take them out?