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Please comment and criticize. I am building my Sisters army now, and I want to make sure that I'm buying good units. There's a lot of copy/paste in this army, but hey, Sisters haven't a lot of choices. For anti-tank, this army has 3 exorcists, 8 meltaguns, and four models that can harm a tank in close combat (canoness, 3 VSSs). For anti-horde, I have 10 template weapons and lots of bolters. I'm most worried about my units getting stuck in close combat, which is why the VSSs have eviscerators. I considered trying to work in an eversor assassin, but I don't really want an inquisitor, and an inquisitor lord is pretty expensive. I've also considered using Lord Karamazov, but as he only has 3 attacks at WS4, so I'm not sure he'd really help in close combat that much. Also I am trying to stick to a Sisters theme. St. Celestine does not seem like a good choice, as she could quickly die to shooting and thus deplete my pool of faith.

HQ

Canoness 120
Plasma pistol, blessed weapon, book of St. Lucius, cloak of St. Aspira, melta bombs

Celestian Retinue 158
2 sisters with meltaguns
3 sisters with bolters
transport: immolator with extra armor and smoke launchers

ELITE

Celestians 158
2 sisters with meltaguns
3 sisters with bolters
transport: immolator with extra armor and smoke launchers

Celestians 158
2 sisters with meltaguns
3 sisters with bolters
transport: immolator with extra armor and smoke launchers

Celestians 158
2 sisters with meltaguns
3 sisters with bolters
transport: immolator with extra armor and smoke launchers

TROOPS

Battle Sisters 230
1 veteran sister superior with book of St. Lucius, eviscerator and bolt pistol
1 sister with heavy flamer
1 sister with flamer
7 sisters with bolters
transport: rhino with extra armor and smoke launchers

Battle Sisters 230
1 veteran sister superior with book of St. Lucius, eviscerator and bolt pistol
1 sister with heavy flamer
1 sister with flamer
7 sisters with bolters
transport: rhino with extra armor and smoke launchers

Battle Sisters 230
1 veteran sister superior with book of St. Lucius, eviscerator and bolt pistol
1 sister with heavy flamer
1 sister with flamer
7 sisters with bolters
transport: rhino with extra armor and smoke launchers

HEAVY SUPPORT

Exorcist 136
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Exorcist 136
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Exorcist 136
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TOTALS

Points: 1850
Sisters: 51 (30 scoring)
Tanks: 10
Faith: 9

With the retinue rule you might as well have another canoness with evisc., 3 base attacks that cant be targeted are very nice.

That would require dropping something, probably a celestian unit. Do you think it's worth it?

I really like this list. I'm building a sisters army with my wife and it's very similar. I just love deploying double digit tanks, it makes a lot of people nervous (some pros even).

Shirou, I really like the idea of having a mech SoB list. And I tried several variations and always come to the conclusion that purely the transports are taking up a lot of points.
Keep in mind that with the changes comming with the 5th ed some army styles are also changing. Expect also Hord Armys that can be fast. Playing Orks as first army, I can tell you that your flammers won't do that much damage. The enemy will try to move smart, too.
Cover and big standard units on missionmarkers will be the way to go. Furthermore expect some more scouts and infiltrators showing up. In missions where you can place a missionmarker place a tough standard (15SoB + VetS + Auspex) unit on the missionmarker and you will keep it. My recommendation is to more balance that list. 3 Exos are realy are hard nut, however a retributor with heavy bolters and a vetsis with an auspex will help you.
Also think about immos with heavy bolters and blessed ammonition, they might not look like they are worth the points, but with 5 ed the cover saves are becomming a bit boosted.
The Celestias are surely greate elite choices, but in the configuration you are using them they are more one shoot - tankhunters. Try to vary a bit.
Looking at your vehicles i can surely say which kind of unit is manning which vehicle. Standards are in Rhinos, Elite in Immos....no little surprise for the enemy.
You dont have realy a fast unit that can do a lot of damage, think about the seraphim, they are fast and with flammers a good unit that can reduce defensive standards in cover very good, furthermore they are able to engage smal deepstrike units in your/behind your lines.
The cannones can give you 3 faithpoints, two of them 6. Think about a second cannones.

Else have fun, sisters can rock...

A canoness gives two faith points, not three.

I agree that the transports take up a lot of points, and I'm a bit disappointed that it looks like everyone else in the game is going to be getting cheaper rhinos, but we will be stuck with 50 points.

I don't want to put retributors and seraphim into this army. Mixing mech and non-mech is a bad idea, as it gives the opponent something to do with all his guns. I agree that they're strong units, though, and I'll use them in my footslogging list.

As for the element of surprise, tournaments usually require you to show your list to your opponent and clearly declare what unit is in each transport, so I don't expect to be pulling many surprises of the kind you're referring to in any case.

You'll do well with this list, which looks similar to one I've had success with in tournement play.

I'd make some suggestions but they'd be basically, pretty minor suggestions and since you've probably already set on the models you have I'll simply say....

Good Job, nice Mech Sisters!

shirou wrote:A canoness gives two faith points, not three...

I know that, too. However, there is this Lithanies of Faith/believe (i dont know the english name) which gives you once an additional Faithpoint with automatic success for 25 Pts, not cheap but can be important.

I don't want to put retributors

... sorry I only wanted to propose options ... and retributors can be in an immo as well, at least theoretical. But as I understand you dont want them in the list. Than 3 Exos are fine, too.

Mixing mech and non-mech is a bad idea, as it gives the opponent something to do with all his guns.

hmmmh, i never thought like this and it doesn't make sense to me, since this dedpends very much how you set up your units. I could sign this if all the transports where Front armour 13 or so, but armour 11 penetrating weapons are quite often...

As for the element of surprise, tournaments usually require you to show your list to your opponent and clearly declare what unit is in each transport

that is different in germany and in poland, too. After the match or when the transport releases its cargo, it is to be announced if it is not WYSIWYG.

Well I am sorry if my english was that poor that it might have offended you, I will be more quite and prefere to read - promise.

I'm not offended! I don't know what might have given you that idea. I don't agree with your advice, but I still appreciate your comment.

Shirou... the eviserators on the vet sisters are wasted.... 2 attacks that hit 50% of the time and don't wound as often as you would like. They will last 1-2 rounds in combat and cause in all likely hood 1 wound. Not worth the points.

This is just what works for me but you may find it works well for you too

10 sisters in rhino with extra armor and smoke
1 upgraded to vet with book and bolter
1 Heavy flamer
1 Melta gun
209pts

I'd drop the plasma pistol on the cannoness also...

thats like 90pts saved

you can drop a celestian unit for 248 pts saved total and take a 4th sister squad as above with some points to spare. Give your cannoness a litanies of faith with the left over points

Well I hope these suggestions help even if you don't use them.

Okay, I removed the eviscerators from the VSSs. I'm still worried about close combat, but I guess the eviscerators weren't really helping me that much. Here's a revised list. I left the plasma pistol on the canoness -- with her BS5, it's an extra kill -- but I could swap it out for a mantle of Ophelia, or else I could put melta bombs on three models.

HQ

Canoness 140
Plasma pistol, blessed weapon, book of St. Lucius, cloak of St. Aspira, litanies of faith

Celestian Retinue 158
2 sisters with meltaguns
3 sisters with bolters
transport: immolator with extra armor and smoke launchers

ELITE

Celestians 158
2 sisters with meltaguns
3 sisters with bolters
transport: immolator with extra armor and smoke launchers

Celestians 158
2 sisters with meltaguns
3 sisters with bolters
transport: immolator with extra armor and smoke launchers

TROOPS

Battle Sisters 205
1 veteran sister superior with book of St. Lucius and bolter
1 sister with heavy flamer
1 sister with flamer
7 sisters with bolters
transport: rhino with extra armor and smoke launchers

Battle Sisters 205
1 veteran sister superior with book of St. Lucius and bolter
1 sister with heavy flamer
1 sister with flamer
7 sisters with bolters
transport: rhino with extra armor and smoke launchers

Battle Sisters 205
1 veteran sister superior with book of St. Lucius and bolter
1 sister with heavy flamer
1 sister with flamer
7 sisters with bolters
transport: rhino with extra armor and smoke launchers

Battle Sisters 207
1 veteran sister superior with book of St. Lucius and bolter
2 sisters with meltaguns
7 sisters with bolters
transport: rhino with extra armor and smoke launchers

HEAVY SUPPORT

Exorcist 138
smoke launchers

Exorcist 138
smoke launchers

Exorcist 138
smoke launchers

TOTALS

Points: 1850
Sisters: 56 (40 scoring)
Tanks: 10
Faith: 9 (+1 litanies)

I generally have trouble justifying even a blessed weapon in mech sister lists. If I'm running pure mech list I want my cannonesses to stay out of hand to hand, and the temptation to charge them in when they have that big beatstick attached is REALLY hard to resist. It's nice to prepare for an inevitability, but I don't know if it's worth spending 30 or even 25 points on in this case. In my variant of this list I don't have a single ccw, which sounds like a real gamble but I find it performs about the same in close combat (poorly) as if I had spent a bunch of points on eviscerators and a blessed weapon.

I'm going to indulge and let one model in my army have a hope of hurting something in close combat.

You know what, they are so fun and fluffy that I don't think there's a single person in the world that would hold it against you!

Hey there, Nice list!

All in all, I still think Eviscerators are great to have, I mean with faith you can pop any tank (minus the super-duper-mega-morphin-monolith) and still instant kill t4 characters, and even wound wraithlords!

Sometimes you just won't kill off the big guy with the meltas, and though you can run via the transports, what about holding the objective?
Honestly, sisters with an eviscerator dominate in hand to hand against units with no more than 2 power weapons.

still, its just the way I use them, With transports, the need for the eviscerators goes down a bit.

Also, Even though I like the idea of celestians, wouldn't you be better off with one more normal troops squad of sisters?

Exorcists=Yep.

The cannones is pretty sweet with a HtH weapon like blessed weapon or evisc with the "new" retinue rule where she cant be picked out. Thats why I think 2 are even better, and generates more faith. Plasma pistols are pretty much a waste tho.

Ill kinda agree on the vet sisters, there they might be abit wasted.

One thing you might think about is switching the plasma pistol for a inferno pistol. You still get 1 shot, but while you lose 6" of range, you gain the ability to more assuredly penetrate a vehicle. Now, I run my Cannoness with a jet pack all on her lonesome, but she makes a scary anti-tank and anti-IC with a Str8 weapon that does 2d6 pen within 3". It might not be terribly useful if she has a retinue without jump packs, though.

Otherwise, while I am not a fan of Immolators and would prefer to see just piles of sisters in Rhinos, that looks like a very solid list. I will be interested to hear how it works for you, since, in theory, I could run something similar, and might just

I'll let you know. I'm still not sold on the plasma pistol, but I can't think of anything great to do with those 15 points. I'll consider the inferno pistol, but I think the smaller range will be a bigger drawback without the jump pack. (I will be using a canoness flying solo in my eventual footslogging list, by the way.)

The new list looks pretty damn solid I must say. Will be a real 5th edition powerhouse the sisters...

Thanks, I feel more confident making my purchases now. I got two exorcists and an immolator on ebay for $113, including shipping, so that's not half bad.