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I don't know bout all you other lizzy players out there but I personally feel that the lizardmen do not need and update, and i think hat they will only get worse with the new book coming out soon. Of course things could go the complete other way ad they could get way better but somehow i doubt that. To me the only things that need changing are skinks should go up a point, saurus down a point or two, and that's about it. what do yall think?

I'm not really a Lizard player, but I like the idea of a new book and udate as it typically means new models and new, different units. I think the Skinks and Sauri could do with a little uodating of the models and I always enjoy the opportunity for new fluff that an army book or codex brings.

i guess but neither the skinks nor the saurus need to be redone really as they look great now. the kroxigors are definitely going to be remade as i've already seen photos of them. basically they look like big 5th edition saurus with more attention to little details and some bad arse weapons. other than that nothing needs new models for them and nothing needs rule fixing. i'll just hope for the best i guess

I definitely think they are in need of a new book.

Saurus are terrible unit wise. The fact that Demon core units cost the same amount of points is ridiculous. They need some kind of fix to make them worthwhile.

Conversely I think Skinks need to go up a point.

Personally, I think the Carnosaur needs something. As of right now he's a really pretty model that's plain old terrible in comparison to other monstrous mounts. The fact that when fighting him you're far better off targeting the Carnosaur than the guy on top, every time because they're the same Toughness and the Carno is only WS3 is just silly. And for everything it costs to take him, they make him use up an extra Hero slot?

Likewise I think the Stegadon could use with a points drop or a stat boost.

Saurus cav need some kind of points drop and/or the ability to take a Spawning to get their save up. Right now they're only really good because of the Totem, and even then that's arguable.

Looking at stuff like the Hero's I'd rather see Skink Priests get more than just Lore of Heavens, and something to make Skink chiefs worth taking.

Stuff like that IMO would be nice to have addressed in the book.

Is the Southland all-skink list going to survive a new book?

no it won't. as you've probably noticed in all of the recent books back of the book lists are being destroyed and GW is making all lists a little more versatile and less restricted.

I'd like to see cheaper saurus, a tweak to the spawning system (as in, core saurus can take one without becoming special), and changes to salamanders. Such as they have to roll to hit like my leadbelchers do, and strip away an attak, 3 S5 is stupid good for a fear-causing artillery unit.

- Salvage

My gut tells me that the spawning system will go the way of the dodo.

a 2 point drop in saurus would be nice, although they are a mainstay of my army. Yeah, less than optimal, but they don't "suck".

Terradons picking up flying cav stats would be appreciated.

skinks will go up in points, but that is to be expected.

Sallies will get a needed rework more in line with leadbealchers I imagine.

Carnies and Steggies need a rework. If anything, a WS bump for carnies -after- they have entered bloodfrenzy would be in flavor.

saurus cav, at a minimum, need a bump in armor to being on par with other heavy cav, or a significant drop in points to fit a "medium" cav model.

Skink cohorts would be a nice addition to our troop choice, even if they came with a mandatory choice like s needed skink hero.

Skink heros need to gain terradon mounts back.

@ boss savage, the sallies only have 2 attacks as is, if anything when they are reworked they need to get the third attack as the will undoubtedly end up with a shooting attack almost identical to the leadbelcher shot except at S3 armor piercing, meaning they will be considerably less useful.

i agree with shotgun on the skink chief needing to get back the terradon mount as that would kick arse. also things like saurus and the steggy should go down in points or at least up in stats.

other than that nothing needs reworking and i think things like the terradons, spawnings and unit options are god enough an to me need no reworking at all.