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There should be a new event at GTs/Adepticon: 40K Debates

We can have Darrian vs Stelek and Yak can be the moderator

I think it would be a very illuminating discussion

Darrian is right and I might add in Beserkers. I played a 5th edition game with a beserker squad charging 40 orks (one squad was beaten up), the beserkers killed 20 thanks to furious charge with only 4 dying in return and with the combat resolution managed to kill another 15 orks.

Lash is a problem for Orks as they have little to defend against it.