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well i went up camping a bit ago and forgot the new ork codex so i had to use my old one.
and i realized that orks FINALLY got good
when i was playing old orks againts new spaceies i was owned like a million times trying just as many tatics
but when i finally got the new codex back, the boyz finally came thro and gave them marines a good thumping
so i think its fair casue all the people with newer codex's get alot better