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Question for you all that I haven't been able to figure out. Let us suppose that a lascannon team is stationed 3" inside area terrain. They fire upon a Hive Tyrant, hit, and wound. The Hive Tyrant is not 50% obscured by terrain. Which cover save rule takes precedence: shooting from more than 2" of area terrain or MCs/Vehicles being obscured?

Well as your post says, the Hive Tyrant is not 50% obscured, so there's no cover save rule to take precedence. The more-than-2"-of-area-terrain rule would be used.

If, however, he WAS 50% obscured AND more than 2" through terrain, both would be applicable, and he could choose which one to use.

Liken it to a character with an Armor AND Invul save who is in cover getting shot by a lascannon. Which save does he use? The cover or the Invul? It's his choice.

Eric

What I'm not sure is whether the MC not being obscured would take precedence over the 2" rule, thus denying the beasty any cover save at all.

e.g., Does a Monster need to be 50% obscured to receive ANY cover save from any source?

SterlingSylver wrote:
e.g., Does a Monster need to be 50% obscured to receive ANY cover save from any source?

Yes. Monstrous Creatures and vehicles have to have 50% of their body (or armor facing in the case of vehicles) physically obscured by terrain or intervening models in order to get a cover save.

how could there be 3" of area terrain infront of the firer but it's not blocking the monstrous creature from thier perspective?

Even if you are shooting further than 2" from area terrain the MC wouldnt get a cover save. It states that in the rulebook more than 50% of the model must be obscured and this rule used for determining MC/vehicles regardless of the other rules.

So no cover save for the MC sorry.

Drunkspleen wrote:how could there be 3" of area terrain infront of the firer but it's not blocking the monstrous creature from thier perspective?

Because area terrain doesn't generally physically block line of sight. In other words, if I bend over the table and take a model's eye view, a piece of area terrain doesn't physically obstruct my view.

50% of the Monstrous Creature's body has to be physically covered in order for it to get a cover save. So even if the firing model is drawing LOS through 10" of area terrain, if you can see more than 50% of the Monstrous Creature's body then it doesn't get a cover save.