force weapon impact in V5 vs. demon

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**Frazzled**

Sorry if this is easily answered (hopefully is). How does a force weapon work in V5 vs. the demonic power voiding instakill? Does that knock out a force weapon in V5?

**don_mondo**

IIRC, the new Force Weapon description says it causes Instant Death. All Daemons have Eternal Warrior and are immune to Instant Death. So against Daemons it's merely a ST whatever power weapon.

**Frazzled**

Thats what I thought, but wanted to confirm. Makes GD's / DP's significantly more nasty (same for Nid MCs as well).

Kind of vitiates the point of a force weapon doesn't it?

**Stelek**

Not exactly.

You can remove eternal warrior from Nids by killing the Synapse creatures.

Demons, you can't.

**Frazzled**

True that. Of course the synapse creatures have a high chance of being the MC on the receiving end so thats all good.

**Valhallan42nd**

But daemonhammers are wicked neat still, against daemons at least.

**Frazzled**

Well any hammer related weapon is neat. Its just the law.

**Valhallan42nd**

This man agrees with you.

**Nurglitch**

It's a bit of a 180 from the old days, where force weapons where the kind of thing that was most effective against Daemons.

**whitedragon**

BLASPHEMY! A PP hammer attached to a GW fig??!?!?!

**Valhallan42nd**

Oh, no no, my good man. That is a GW thunderhammer!

http://www.solegends.com/citcat89autumn/c89aut-070204-2-02.htm

Kickin' it old, old, old school, as in 1989.

**Alpharius**

Well, it is still "significantly" a GW figure.

It started 'life' as a GW figure.

And it is certainly more than 50% a GW figure.

Plus, it is 100% awesome, so...

**Frazzled**

Oh man Thats my old army commander (with combat drugs of course). Nothing like running 18" to put the smackdown on, well everything. Viva Las Same Initiative thunderhammer!

**whitedragon**

Valhallan42nd wrote:Oh, no no, my good man. That is a GW thunderhammer!

http://www.solegends.com/citcat89autumn/c89aut-070204-2-02.htm

Kickin' it old, old, old school, as in 1989.

Ah, I stand corrected. OLD SCHOOL FOR THE WIN!

I even had one of those, silly me. The size of the hand and the different hammer style threw me off because I had just got done browsing some warjack galleries..

**Iboshi2**

jfrazell wrote:Thats what I thought, but wanted to confirm. Makes GD's / DP's significantly more nasty (same for Nid MCs as well).

Kind of vitiates the point of a force weapon doesn't it?

Greater Daemons from the codex chaos space marines do not have eternal warrior- I've already ran into this during gameplay- as a slanesh blissgiver took out a khorne chaos lord, then a greater daemon over the course of two turns. (this was a slanesh vs. khorne battle with both armies from codex chaos space marines)

I dont know about the GD from Chaos Daemons, but the chaos marine one is a viable force weapon target.