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Straight to the point, zzap gun. Is it auto hit or no?
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According to the codex, I didn't see anything that said that zzap gun doesn't roll to hit. However, I just read in the summary area of the 5th ed. rulebook. It says, " Zzap gun doesn't need to roll to hit."

anyone can help me understand this? which one is true?

Someone copy-pasted poorly?

The 2nd page of the current Ork 5th Edition Codex FAQ has a question about the order of operations for using the weapon, in which it specifies that the determination of the weapon's strength is made before making the to-hit roll. That would seem to override any concern that a misprint in the 5th Edition summary overrode the Codex entry.

My codex says ZZaps have to roll to hit. Codex wins out over rule book. FAQ also seems to confirm this.

Yes, the reference section in the rulebook clearly says that with any discrepancy between the rulebook and the codex that the codex is correct.

Since the codex requires Zzap guns to roll to hit, they do.

Q. Is the roll for a Zzap Gun's Strength made before or after the target unit is chosen?

A. The roll is made after choosing a target unit, but before rolling to hit.

The above section from the Ork FAQ leads us to believe that the Zzap gun still rolls to hit, as referred by the answer to this question. Just for clarification if the disclosure before the reference section in the BGB wasn't enough.

It was probably just an oversight with the rules in the ork codex... With the way Zzapp guns work there is no reason to pick them over Kannons now...

frgsinwntr wrote:It was probably just an oversight with the rules in the ork codex... With the way Zzapp guns work there is no reason to pick them over Kannons now...

Well, unless you already have a half dozen of them.

But they do a good job of guarding objectives in Apocalypse. Put the zappies in some cover about 12" away from the objective, wait for some vehicle to wander up, and turn it into a barbq.

Zzap gunz dont have to roll to hit...

The Ork codex dated 2007 and does not have any rules saying that the zzap gun does or does not have to role to hit

The 5th ed Rulebook dated 2008 says Zzap guns dont roll to hit

The 5th ed Summary Rulebook dated 2008 also says that Zzap guns dont roll to hit

The Ork FAQ dated 2005 says "Q. Is the roll for a Zzap Gun's Strength made before or after the target unit is chosen? A. The roll is made after choosing a target unit, but before rolling to hit."

This is not saying zzap guns roll to hit its stating the time in the shooting phase where the strength is rolled...

I hope this helps any ork players!

WAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!

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