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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/29 20:50:02
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think it's pretty self-explanatory.
Edited to make reading easier.
2500 Pts - Daemonhunters Roster - DH Ard Boyz
Grey Knight Hero w/Nemesis Force Weapon; Incinerator
[Goes in any vehicle]
Inquisitor Lord [ WH] w/Bolter; Psychic Hood; Hammer of the Witches
Retinue: 3 Warriors with Flamers; 1 Chirurgeon
Mounted in Land Raider
Inquisitor [ WH] w/Bolter; Excruciators; Hammer of the Witches
Retinue: 3 Warriors with Flamers; 1 Chirurgeon
Mounted in Land Raider
Inquisitor [ DH] w/Bolter;
Retinue: 3 Warriors with Flamers; 2 Mystics
Mount in Land Raider w/Extra Armor
Inquisitor [ DH] w/Bolter;
Retinue: 3 Warriors with Flamers; 2 Mystics
Mount in Land Raider w/Extra Armor
Inquisitorial Stormtroopers w/2 Flamers, Vet w/Combi-Flamer
Mount in Grey Knight Land Raider Crusader [Heavy support]
Inquisitorial Stormtroopers w/2 Flamers, Vet w/Combi-Flamer
Mount in Grey Knight Land Raider Crusader [Heavy support]
Inquisitorial Stormtroopers w/2 Flamers, Vet w/Combi-Flamer
Mount in Grey Knight Land Raider Crusader [Heavy support]
Total Roster Cost: 2500
There John ya happy?!
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2008/07/29 21:09:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 07:23:30
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Feedback?? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 07:50:29
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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...Land...Raiders...
I would hate to fight this. Especially in my gaming area, where vehicles aren't heavily used...
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
Black Templars (8000), Imperial Guard (3000), Sanguinary Host (2000), Tau Empire (1850), Bloodaxes (3000) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 08:01:25
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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All you need is 50 Nob Bikers and you'll own my donut wheeling  in no time. lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 09:25:19
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Bane Knight
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I am speechless....
that is a lot of landraiders in there. The list itself is not that strong, but the overabundance of lndraiders makes it a though cookie to crack...
Still if an (dark) eldar list takes you on and has some brightlances they should be able to destroy you to a man. (guardians with lances and a few vipers with lances and guiding from the seeers (if he gets it off)
it will be a tough cookie for most armies though, orks will die in droves to the flamers and the ability of the lr's to soak up fist attacks (S9 on the charge still requires 5's to glance...). Marines will be able to knock out 1 a round with the few lascannons they will be holding (after new codex at least). tau will need the rails, but get no guarantee on taking down 1 a turn if they do not take a lot of railsuits (making them vulnerable to other lists...)
all in all I am speechless... (although I can still type quite a story...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 15:41:22
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Urf. Not what I would call a "fun to play against" style army. Should do well, but is not much different from the Tri-monolith denial army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 16:25:56
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wait, Ard Boyz isn't for  to be  and  the other guy whose trying to  me?
lol
I think x7 is better than x3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 16:34:05
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Battleship Captain
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LOL - oh that's good fun. I'd never thought to put the words "Land Raider" and "spam" in the same sentence, but there you go. Man, talk about target saturation.
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 17:34:31
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Dakka Veteran
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Why the LRCs? Anti-infantry fire?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 17:42:24
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well...the LRC are there so after I get all these LR, I can run different LR armies without having to buy new.
I plan on upgrading one LR to a redeemer, possibly two. It's quite the  really.
Since it's the only Imperial tank I can stomach, I'll be running LR heavy armies.
The LRC will probably end up in my 2009 BT army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 17:57:57
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Confessor Of Sins
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7 land raiders is tough! I like the list alot but if you face a Lascannon heavy list... you're going to get owned!
the other thing you will need to worry about is the abundance of orks out there. So many PKs in a list can wreck your day
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 18:35:17
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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frgsinwntr wrote:7 land raiders is tough! I like the list alot but if you face a Lascannon heavy list... you're going to get owned!
Those lists don't as a rule exist anymore. Lascannons don't own land raiders anyway.
frgsinwntr wrote:the other thing you will need to worry about is the abundance of orks out there. So many PKs in a list can wreck your day
So many flamers unseen makes a grown man cry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 18:41:01
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Regular Dakkanaut
Houston, TX
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How do you beat Zilla nids? Carnifexes make great can openers. The lascannons, assault cannons and multi-meltas will take down a couple, but the others won't have a tough time penetrating AV 14 with their Str9+2d6.
Drop podding meltas will also ruin your day.
It has a great "shock" factor, and land raiders are harder to kill in 5th by shooting, but I doubt this army could go the distance.
Daydream
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No matter how powerful the wizard, a dagger between his shoulder blades will really cramp his style --Steven Brust.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 18:55:05
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
South Pasadena
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I wouldn't take an Ork list to the Ardboy first of all. Orks work best at 1750, 2000 is pushing their efficiency. 2500 is too much. Besides 7LR's would crush an Ork list.
I am thinking of using Chaos at the Ardboy. Big squads of plaguemarines and termies may be the ticket. Plaus 9 oblits of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 18:58:21
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Darrian13 wrote:I wouldn't take an Ork list to the Ardboy first of all. Orks work best at 1750, 2000 is pushing their efficiency. 2500 is too much. Besides 7LR's would crush an Ork list.
I am thinking of using Chaos at the Ardboy. Big squads of plaguemarines and termies may be the ticket. Plaus 9 oblits of course.
I agree. Orks have issues past 2000.
Lash Sorc, Plague Marines to hold objectives (double meltas? pfist?) and LC/combi- plas+flamer termies DS off them? oblits in the back field?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 19:05:42
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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Daydream wrote:How do you beat Zilla nids? Carnifexes make great can openers. The lascannons, assault cannons and multi-meltas will take down a couple, but the others won't have a tough time penetrating AV 14 with their Str9+2d6.
Carnifexes do indeed make great can openers.
I'm hoping I can zap at least half the fexes dead before they get to my side.
The GK termie can take a wounded one out.
Then, run away and hope they can't hit. lol I think since I can wipe the rest of the list (including Tyrants, Zoanthropes, and Warriors) in short order the only real problem will be those Carnifexes I have to move away from, but that's why you shoot the ones that fleeted the furthest (in a CC fex list) dead first. In a shooty fex list, I'm really not worried. They'll stun a few, I'll kill what I can, they'll stay away...
I guess the cunning part of my plan is, the troops go in the vehicles the carnifexes aren't afraid of. So in objective missions, they have a serious problem.
Daydream wrote:Drop podding meltas will also ruin your day.
I doubt it. I don't have 2 mystic units to let the LRC open up on drop guard units for nothing, ya know. So far I've eaten a single melta blast. The rest I've cooked. Besides, if they scatter or intentionally drop out of my range, I can kill them at range or fry them with flamers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 19:07:23
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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The land raiders become alot stronger if the new machine spirit rules transfer over to the Demonhunters list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 19:10:25
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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whitedragon wrote:The land raiders become alot stronger if the new machine spirit rules transfer over to the Demonhunters list.
The 3 LRC have the new rule.
The two WH LR have the old rule.
The two DH LR have nothing yet (thus the extra armor on them).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 20:06:48
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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What if you get matched up against Dark Lance spamming Dark Eldar?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 20:14:04
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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I eat it in the shorts.
Hopefully I get to go first, or keep everything in reserve and move on from my table edge.
WWP? Raider spam?
Dead. Dead. Dead.
Unless I get lucky.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 20:36:27
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Bounding Assault Marine
Los Angeles
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This is very similar to the BT 'Ard boys list I was comtemplating on bringing.
Except BT can do it for less and take LRC with blessed hulls.
Sushicaddy's BT list
HQ
Emporer's champ - 100
+uphold the honor f the emporer
Castellam+BP+CC+Frag+Krak - 70
Total HQ=170
Troops-
5 initiates-80 points
LRC+blessed hull +smoke launchers+searchlight+dozer blade+pintle mounted storm bolter - 304
total=384
5 initiates-80 points
LRC+blessed hull +smoke launchers+searchlight+dozer blade+pintle mounted storm bolter - 304
total=384
5 initiates-80 points
LRC+blessed hull +smoke launchers+searchlight+dozer blade+pintle mounted storm bolter - 304
total=384
5 initiates-80 points
LRC+blessed hull +smoke launchers+searchlight+dozer blade+pintle mounted storm bolter - 304
total=384
total troops = 1536
Heavy Support
land raider+heavy armor+smoke launchers+seachlight+pintleSB=264
land raider+heavy armor+smoke launchers+seachlight+pintleSB=264
land raider+heavy armor+smoke launchers+seachlight+pintleSB=264
total Heavy support= 792
total=2498
less flamers, but the blessed hull allows for survival vs the pointy ears.
Against hordes, you are going to have to rely on the storm bolters, heavy bolters and hurricane bolters to carry the day.
There is less survivability in this army though if you get shot out of a tank, but the tanks are tougher.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/07/30 20:45:46
Not enough 殺氣 ( sorry i have to apologize i honestly dunno how to say this in english ... ) "kill aura" xD -Lunahound |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 21:50:52
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
South Pasadena
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@SushiCaddy, you should have been at the store Monday afternoon. I faced Russ's BT army with my standard Eldar MC list. He had 3 LRC's! Yikes!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/30 23:19:57
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Dakka Veteran
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Welps if you haven't bought the Land Raiders yet I'd suggest magnetizing the sponsons. That way when the new plastic kit comes out you can just buy the crusader/redeemer parts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 02:38:05
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Bounding Assault Marine
Los Angeles
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Darrian13 wrote:@SushiCaddy, you should have been at the store Monday afternoon. I faced Russ's BT army with my standard Eldar MC list. He had 3 LRC's! Yikes!
How did you do?
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Not enough 殺氣 ( sorry i have to apologize i honestly dunno how to say this in english ... ) "kill aura" xD -Lunahound |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 04:46:00
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
South Pasadena
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I got lucky and won the game.
That game against Russ' BT LRC list was as challenging as my game against your 30 HW infiltrating marine list with my Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 05:15:07
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:Welps if you haven't bought the Land Raiders yet I'd suggest magnetizing the sponsons. That way when the new plastic kit comes out you can just buy the crusader/redeemer parts.
Excellent suggestion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 08:23:32
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Sushicaddy, since Land Raider Crusaders may be taken as Dedicated Transports in the BT Codex, you can field a lot more than 3 in a Templar list.
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
Black Templars (8000), Imperial Guard (3000), Sanguinary Host (2000), Tau Empire (1850), Bloodaxes (3000) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 00:52:24
Subject: Re:My Ard Boyz List
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Retinues count for KPs, right? How many KPs in that list then? 19? That seems high for MEQ, but when you consider lots of them are LRs then maybe it isn't so bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 06:36:49
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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This list looks fun. Funny thing about the new scoring is you can have a LR on an objective with troops inside of it so, nothing can get closer than 3" if LR is still on objective (and obviously alive) so, you can almost be sure to get the objective no matter what if that makese sense? (my logic is LR is larger than a 3" diamiter so nothing can contest it while LR is there).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/01 14:10:15
Subject: My Ard Boyz List
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Fixture of Dakka
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mortetvie wrote:This list looks fun. Funny thing about the new scoring is you can have a LR on an objective with troops inside of it so, nothing can get closer than 3" if LR is still on objective (and obviously alive) so, you can almost be sure to get the objective no matter what if that makese sense? (my logic is LR is larger than a 3" diamiter so nothing can contest it while LR is there).
That's the evil, cunning plan I have.
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