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Hello,
I am sure that Hit and Run has been argued about before, especially since I've seen quotes like the one below while searching.

Posted by Mannahin on 2007/02/11 04:58:36

Posted By xero on 02/11/2007 9:16 AM

3: Assuming I take the Withdraw ability; does Hit and Run allow me to fall back at the end of my opponents Assault phase, thus possibly allowing me to re-charge on my turn, and gain the extra attack dice?

Yes indeed. This is one of several good tactical uses for it.

But is this really true? I haven't found the actual argument for this.

As we all agree, 40k is permissive, and there I have seen no rule explicitly stating that you can use the H&R USR in the oppenents Assault phase. Can someone point me to a reference, or the old argument? By my reading H&R only states that it may be used "at the end of the (an??) assault phase."

I quest for Troof!

From page 75 of the BRB:

Units with this ability that are locked in combat may choose to leave close combat at the end of the Assault phase.

that is the core summary of how the rules work, or when they can be used. So there's a check list you should go through:

Is this unit in combat?

Is it the end of the Assault Phase?

If you want more support for it then the rule concludes with the following:

If there are units with this rule on both sides, roll-off to determine who goes first and then alternate disengaging them.

The only way this clarification could possibly be needed is if a unit can opt to Hit and Run in the opponent's assault phase.

I think it is quite clear that Hit and Run can be used in either player's assault phase.

Thank you,

I think my original questions would still be valid after the first two points, but the third quote makes it very clear.

Thank you again.

der Wiskinator wrote:Hello,
I am sure that Hit and Run has been argued about before, especially since I've seen quotes like the one below while searching.

Posted by Mannahin on 2007/02/11 04:58:36

Posted By xero on 02/11/2007 9:16 AM

3: Assuming I take the Withdraw ability; does Hit and Run allow me to fall back at the end of my opponents Assault phase, thus possibly allowing me to re-charge on my turn, and gain the extra attack dice?

Yes indeed. This is one of several good tactical uses for it.

But is this really true? I haven't found the actual argument for this.

As we all agree, 40k is permissive, and there I have seen no rule explicitly stating that you can use the H&R USR in the oppenents Assault phase. Can someone point me to a reference, or the old argument? By my reading H&R only states that it may be used "at the end of the (an??) assault phase."

I quest for Troof!

For the record, GW rules are NOT permissive.
By definition, "Permissive" rules would allow it unless you were told otherwise.
By NOT allowing it, unless given permission, that makes them Exclusionary (sometimes referred to as "Permission Based").

That being said, the best answer for you was as quoted from the rulebook:

Units with this ability that are locked in combat may choose to leave close combat at the end of the Assault phase.

You can H&R after either assault phase, though it seems to me a relatively rare occasion that would have you H&R after your OWN Assault phase.

Eric

You can H&R after either assault phase, though it seems to me a relatively rare occasion that would have you H&R after your OWN Assault phase.

I'd agree. I've never come across a situation that needed it.