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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 21:37:16
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Between the Sun and the Sky
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I am starting a Jetbike-heavy Eldar army, and had an idea to paint and base the Jetbikes to make it look like they were zooming at an incredible pace. I would sort of streak the paint horizontally to create the illusion of linear movement, and lean the bushes/scrub on the base to create the same effect. Has anyone tried this before? Would it work?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 21:57:39
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Sounds like a good idea to me! I would suggest just going for it and make a test base. And post some WIPs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 22:06:53
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Between the Sun and the Sky
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Will do! (When I get the money to get the models... haha)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 22:18:15
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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ooo, and you could lean the mounting stck forward as well to give it a little more sense of movement. You can just start by working on an extra 25mm base (if you have one) and just draw on a rectangle of paper as a place holder (or a 'counts as' figure!  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 22:19:55
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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I think there are ways of making the model appear as though it's in motion that don't rely on 'blurring' the paint that will be much more effective. It's largely to do with positioning and reference points on the base.
The problem I see with this idea is that while you might blur the paint, the model itself will still be clearly in focus to the viewer upon inspection, which will end up looking just like sloppy paint work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 22:25:57
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Between the Sun and the Sky
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jamsessionein wrote:I think there are ways of making the model appear as though it's in motion that don't rely on 'blurring' the paint that will be much more effective. It's largely to do with positioning and reference points on the base.
The problem I see with this idea is that while you might blur the paint, the model itself will still be clearly in focus to the viewer upon inspection, which will end up looking just like sloppy paint work.
Hmmm... that's a pretty good point. I'll chew it over for a bit before I commit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 22:39:23
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeh, do a test model, it's worth a try, but I too worry that the result may look more like smeared paint than fast movement
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 22:45:00
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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and only "blurring" the base should be all that's needed
a-la
Image linked from wikihow.com under how to make blurred background images
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/11 23:11:24
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Between the Sun and the Sky
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Thank you very much delkins, that about describes the effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 00:37:01
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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and show him hitting a poor imperial guardsman and just slicing right through him. nothing says speed like trauma! Well, maybe that's not such a good idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 03:31:16
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Fixture of Dakka
Canada
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Bluring on the actual model is possible, but it's really tough to pull off. The one time I've seen it done nicely is via sculpting:
These Rackham Equanime models are more in the vein of phasing in and out of reality, but they do have blur effects in places too.
Just something to chew on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 03:50:22
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
Atlanta
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Now there's a Champion of Tzeentch if I ever did see one, too bad its not tournament legal.
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Penetrating so many secrets, we cease to believe in the unknowable. But there it sits nevertheless, calmly licking its chops.
* H. L. Mencken, in Minority Report (1956)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/12 04:33:08
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Never-Miss Nightwing Pilot
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I don't see any blurring in those pics at all. I see some contrasting hues that are blended spectacularly, but no blurred paint. Also, in my opinion, I get no sense of movement from those models whatsoever.
The issusion of movement to the eye is SOLELY based upon background. Ever been sitting in a car and looked out the window at a telephone pole (that you KNOW is not moving) and another car slowly passes? You get the weird sensation that YOU are moving?
Create your illusion of movement on the base, in my opinion. Bushes and tall grass bent over as it ZOOOMS by, an open book on the ground with a few pages yanked out and whipping across the ground underneath the bike, etc.
Imagination will get you where you need to go.
Ghidorah
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/13 17:31:46
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Ghidorah wrote:...an open book on the ground with a few pages yanked out and whipping across the ground underneath the bike, etc.
No jetbikes in the library, sir.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/13 19:40:11
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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If you're planning on sculpting or bulking the bases with Filler or Green Stuff, then drag it out in long lines, along the plane of motion.
But I guess that would be like ZOOM Zoom, as opposed to Zoom.
~sA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/13 19:48:23
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Never-Miss Nightwing Pilot
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Elusive71 wrote:Ghidorah wrote:...an open book on the ground with a few pages yanked out and whipping across the ground underneath the bike, etc.
No jetbikes in the library, sir.
What if they're really quiet and I really need a Hayne's Manual?
Ghidorah
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/14 14:17:22
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/14 15:29:05
Subject: Re:Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Irked Blood Angel Scout with Combat Knife
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I took the idea of tanks commonly have vertical oil/rust/dirt lines dripping off mechanical parts, joints or rivits and made them more horizontal on my DE Jetbikes. That in addition to mounting the bikes with a little pitch/yaw do make it seem like the bikes are, or frequently are moving quickly. I think they turned out pretty good; I'll try to get photos for you.
~ steph
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/14 15:35:45
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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But I guess that would be like ZOOM Zoom, as opposed to Zoom.
I'm pretty sure the Eldar don't get their bikes from Mazda...I have a feeling that the Eldar have no patience whatsoever for annyoing commercials.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/14 16:22:06
Subject: Jetbikes: To Blur or not to Blur?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I saw some cool dirt/chipping effects on a Tau tank or pirrana around here a while back. Essentially little streaks going from the front edges of the nose and tail wings that really gave the illusion of movement, or at least the feeling that the thing normally goes really fast, enough so that it hits small birds and they smear in streaks... might be worth looking up.
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