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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/18 17:25:45
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Nasty Nob
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1850 point Ultra list
The IC’s lend their weight to Close Combat, the Librarian down range with the Rhino Squads and the Master with the 2 running Squads
1x Master, PW, BP, combat shield, jump pack, terminator honors, Frag grenades
1x Epistolary, Veil of Time, Force weapon, BP, Melta bombs, frag grenades, jump pack, Iron Halo
These 2 Squads bee-line to the OBJ’s most closly tied into the OBJ’s Im claiming in or near my DZ OR they take the most covered and concealed route. The rhino needs to survive one turn of movement.
10x Tactical Squad in RHINO with smoke, HB, Flamer, Vet with PF and Combi-melta
10x Tactical Squad in RHINO with smoke, HB, Meltagun, Vet with PF and Combi-flamer
These two squads run trail behind the rhinos – they go for intermittent OBJ’s. Running really makes them fast enough to not require Rhinos them selves. Ill be sure to position the rhinos to block LOS from enemy firepower units.
10x Tactical Squad HB, plasmagun, Vet with PF and Combi-melta
10x Tactical Squad HB, plasmagun, Vet with PW, Combi-plasma and Melta bombs
These two Squads take my DZ OBJ’s
10x Tactical Squad Missile launcher and plasmagun
10x Tactical Squad Missile launcher and plasmagun
This Squad draws fire away from my Tactical Squads
10x Devastator Squad 2x plasma Cannon, 2x Missile Launcher
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/18 17:31:51
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I'm missing an Assault squad accompanying the ICs. The rest looks pretty good.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/18 17:51:15
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Nasty Nob
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I agree - I dont want to remove any Tactical Squads so it leaves me to either:
Drop an IC (Master) for a small Assault Squad
Drop the Devastators for a big Assault Squad
Drop both for 2 decent sized Assault Squads.
I like the lethality of the IC's so they kind of comensate for not having a dedicated Assault Squad.
The Devastator Squad is there literally to draw fire away frm the Tactical Squads. If I drop these for an Assault Squad - the only viable targets to shoot at will be the Tactical - as Ill be shielding the Assault Squad.
Its a dilemna - will have to see how this pans out. Ill probably drop the devastators for a unit of attack bikes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/18 18:21:51
Subject: Re:1850 Ultramarines
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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The Devastator Squad is there literally to draw fire away frm the Tactical Squads.
The Dev squad will unlikely draw fire. The enemy will shoot at your mobile elements, these are the closest threats for her.
If you drop the Dev squad you have only 2 tactical units able to give fire support. Not much if you ask me.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/18 18:31:35
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Nasty Nob
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Thats why Im thinking Attack Bikes are a strong move - theyre mobile and provide fire support.
As it is though, Ill be keeping the Devastators, even if they dont draw fire (they have so far), they can put a hurting on the opponents units.
I could drop the Master for 3 HB Attack bikes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/18 18:54:32
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Attack Bikes? Well, either turbo boost or shoot. They are one-hit wonders. If the enemy shoots back, they'll get down.
Alternatively, you could give the ICs terminator armour and let them lead a large Terminator squad. They could form the spearhead of your advance. In the backfield you only need one tactical squad.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/20 16:27:33
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Nasty Nob
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What do people think of replacing the Devastators with either a Multi-Melta Attack Bike Squadron or a Heavy Bolter Attack Bike Squadron - both with 3 bikes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/20 21:24:33
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Attack Bike squadrons are not durable enough; they have no ablative wounds as Dev squads have.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/20 21:46:26
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Nasty Nob
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So if i understand you correctly....
Drop a Tactical Squad for either an Assault Squad or a Terminator Retinue for one of the IC's
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/21 05:55:17
Subject: Re:1850 Ultramarines
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Drop a Tactical Squad for either an Assault Squad or a Terminator Retinue for one of the IC's
Well, the new missions suggest to take a maximum number of troops. After about 10 test games, I see hardly a situation that this is really necessary.
I found that a spearhead unit that can clean an objective is mandatory in each Marine army.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/21 20:44:22
Subject: 1850 Ultramarines
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Nasty Nob
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I agree - that why I have the 2 IC's kitted out for CC. Winning CC's and then winning the initiative roll decisively beats your opponent. I just need to keep them supported - hence the 2 rhino squads. I prefer rhinos over jumppack troops beacuae I can use the rhino as mobile cover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/22 06:37:20
Subject: Re:1850 Ultramarines
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I prefer rhinos over jumppack troops beacuae I can use the rhino as mobile cover.
Rhinos provide kill points, too.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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