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Now that sniper rifles have the new rending rule, how do we work out shots against vehicles?

is it 2d6, and if we roll a 12 then add d3?
or do we never get to add d3?

or did I miss the passage in the 5ed rule book where they clarify this?

If the first, then pathfinders vs vehicles is kind of sick, ap1 ~ 50% of the time with guide...

nrs02004 wrote:is it 2d6, and if we roll a 12 then add d3?

Where is this 2D6 coming from? If it's for the Armor Penetration roll then you only roll a single D6, not 2D6.

nrs02004 wrote:or did I miss the passage in the 5ed rule book where they clarify this?

Indeed, you did. Snipers now count as Strength 3 weapons against vehicles, with the Rending special rule. Thus, it would be 1d6 + 3, and if you rolled a 6 you would add a d3.

In other words, you have a very slim chance to glance AV12 on any given shot.

The way it actually works is this:

You are S3.

If you roll a 6 on the armor penetration roll:

You add 6 to your strength value.

By the wording, I am not entirely sure if this counts as your armor pen or if you need to roll extra dice. I believe it counts as your first armor pen dice, but the wording is not exactly crisp.

Then you roll a D3 for actual armor penetration dice.

For a value range of 10-12 [or 9 + D3].

sourclams wrote:In other words, you have a very slim chance to glance AV12 on any given shot.

Unless the sniper is a Vindicare

With the Turbo Penetrator and rending they got a sick tank busting abillity now.

Actually, the Exitus Rifle is never listed as having the Sniper rule. It simply states (and defines thoroughly) what an Exitus sniper rifle does.

"The exitus rifle is treated as a sniper rifle (range 36", hits on 2+, wounds on 4+) with an AP value of 2. In addition.." etc. etc.

It does not particularly say it has the Sniper rule. Am I right or wrong? Willing to hear it out.

Smashotron wrote:Actually, the Exitus Rifle is never listed as having the Sniper rule. It simply states (and defines thoroughly) what an Exitus sniper rifle does.

"The exitus rifle is treated as a sniper rifle (range 36", hits on 2+, wounds on 4+) with an AP value of 2. In addition.." etc. etc.

It does not particularly say it has the Sniper rule. Am I right or wrong? Willing to hear it out.

Had just checked the FAQ from GW and thats why i posted, and it stated :

Q. How does the Vindicare’s turbo-penetrator round work in regards to rending?
A. Because sniper rifles are rending, when rolling for armour penetration, the Vindicare gets to add a D3 to the total for each dice that comes up a six. So, if one of the three dice is a six, the total penetration would be 6+2D6+D3+3 (giving a result between 12 and 22); if two were sixes, the total would be 12+1D6+2D3+3 (18 to 26); if all three dice were sixes, the total would be 18+3D3+3 (24 to 30!). Almost certainly enough…

I believe that the fellas at GW think that if you pay 100+ pts for one model he should be good.

EDIT: missed a line

fabbes wrote:I believe that the fellas at GW think that if you pay 100+ pts for one model he should be good.

Especially considering that he may only get 5-7 shots per game....

Bah good catch. I always keep forgetting they FAQed the assassins. Sorry for the confusion.

Smashotron wrote:Bah good catch. I always keep forgetting they FAQed the assassins. Sorry for the confusion.

Heh no worries, actually i was in your position a few hours ago, before the FAQ