Lurk or test, can you do neither?

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**InquisitorFabius**

Eza wrote:Really? Where does it say "You must use at least one of the following"?

By your own argument, where does it state you may choose to do neither?

**InquisitorFabius**

Does the codex allow this, because the codex trumps the rulebook.

**InquisitorFabius**

You still haven't proven anything other your own interpretation of a sub-set of the rules.

**InquisitorFabius**

Its amazing how often you need to edit a simple response. It makes me wonder what else you type before you have to correct yourself.

**InquisitorFabius**

Timmah wrote:
Note it says if you pass a leadership test it may act as normal. It says nothing of the sort that IB is then ignored.

It may act as normal per IB, as it is still under the effects of IB.

That means it can Lurk. As that is the only option of acting normally under IB.

Heck it can't even move according to you now.

it just reads, if you WANT to move it you make a leadership test. (obviously to punish people stupid enough to want to move units outside of synapse) If you pass the leadership test you can Lurk, if you fail you flee to synapse/board edge. Lulz

Actually it says if the LD test is passed, it may act as normal, if it is failed the unit falls back. Then goes on to state that alternatively the unit may choose to Lurk. Your own argument is flawed as IB is not an action its a circumstance for being out of Synapse.

Your last statement is how YOU want to read it. If you pass the unit may move, shoot and assault as normal. If you CHOOSE to lurk, then the unit may only shoot as normal but gets +1 to cover unless it is a MC. Your next statement is a personal attack.

**InquisitorFabius**

Eza wrote:
Lukus83 wrote:Eza, please show me, in the case of you not moving and not taking the leadership test, where have you applied IB to that brood? Thats all I really want to know. The codex states..."apply the following rules". By not applying them you are in violation of the rules. Im trying to be polite so please tell me how have you applied the IB to the brood.

You show me where it says if that I don't test for Ld. Im not applying that rule. Same goes for lurking. The rule doesn't stipulate you having to do anything. That's the whole point.

Show me where it gives the option to do neither.

**InquisitorFabius**

The whole basis of your argument is how the term "alternatively" is used in this instance.

The term is used to state that if you do not wish to take the LD test, and possibly fail it, the brood may Lurk.

**InquisitorFabius**

Eza wrote:
InquisitorFabius wrote:The whole basis of your argument is how the term "alternatively" is used in this instance.

The term is used to state that if you do not wish to take the LD test, and possibly fail it, the brood may Lurk.

Yes, and that's all it says. It simply gives you some suggested possible courses of action. Not a mandatory choice.

So you agree with my interpretation that you must do one or the other.

**InquisitorFabius**

No, we are just applying your logic to the rules.

**InquisitorFabius**

So for you do something it has to explicitly be listed as an restriction or you get to choose something else?

That is your argument?

**InquisitorFabius**

Timmah wrote:
InquisitorFabius wrote:So for you do something it has to explicitly be listed as an restriction or you get to choose something else?

That is your argument?

If that something else is usually allowed per the rules, like not taking an action with a unit, then yes.

Explain how you come across the the ability to use something that is "usually" allowed when those "usually" allowed are replaced with a special rule.