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Krazed Killa Kan






South NJ/Philly

Ok, fun question:

A Warcaster is engaged in Melee with another model.

Said Warcaster wants to use an offensive spell against a model that it is not engaged with.

Can they cast the spell? Reading the errata, you can cast offensive spells while you are engaged, but they only speak about targeting a model you are already engaged with. Now I'm under the impression that since Offensive Spells follow all the rules for making ranged attacks unless otherwise noted, then I'm under the impression that if you are engaged in melee, you can NOT cast offensive spells at models that you are not engaged with.

Is this correct?

Hopefully it's not a stupid question, I don't have my rules book with me and won't till later tonight, but I wanted to resolve this now if possible. It's sort of to settle a rules debate.
   
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Widowmaker






Chicago

From the Errata:

Erratum: Prime p.54 : Casting Spells
Replace the text of Casting Spells with the following:
Warcasters have the ability to cast spells. A warcaster may cast spells during his activation by spending a number of focus points equal to the spell’s focus cost. Resolve the spell’s effects immediately. Unless noted otherwise, spells that target a model other than where the spell originates require line of sight to their targets. Warcasters cannot target themselves with offensive spells. Any spell, including offensive spells, may be cast while the warcaster is in melee. Resolve the spell’s effects immediately. A warcaster may cast as many spells during his activation for which he can pay the focus cost. The same spell may be cast multiple times during the warcaster’s activation. A warcaster may cast spells before or after moving, but not in the middle of his movement. Likewise, he may cast spells before and after each attack, but he cannot interrupt an unresolved attack, nor can he cast spells between the movement and attack portions of a charge. Spells may be cast prior to initiating an attack or after completely resolving an attack, including determining hits, damage, and special effects. A warcaster cannot cast any spells if he runs during his activation. For example, a warcaster could cast a spell, move, use his combat action to make a melee attack, cast two more spells and then spend another focus point to make an additional melee attack.


Redded the relevant portion. It doesn't list any targeting restrictions here. In fact, I believe even Greylords can spell models not engaging them while engaged.

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Ravager




The reason they mention models in melee with them, is because if you make a magic attack at a model you're in melee with, they don't get the +4 def from being in melee.

If you make a magic attack against a model in melee, but not with you, then they do get the +4 defence.

You can cast into and out of melee freely if you have LOS. Just your opponent may get the +4 def depending on if he's in melee and not with you.
   
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Krazed Killa Kan






South NJ/Philly

Thanks, I think we got the whole thing resolved pretty well and it turns out the way our little "starter group" was playing it was wrong.

I appreciate getting the responses to help us figure it all out.

Thanks
   
 
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