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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/31 18:05:54
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
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 Ok First army so here goes:
HQ:Rune Priest in Terminator armor and Storm Bolter. 105 pts
Wolf Priest: Healing potions. 120 pts
Troops:
9 Grey Hunters, 8 bolters, 1 meltagun, wolf Pelt,181pts
9 Blood Claws, 9 bolt pistols, 7 CC weapons, two powerfists. 166 points
Elites:
2 Wolf guard Leaders,bolter, bolt pistol,Wolf tooth necklace, Frost Blade. 93 pts
5 Wolfguard bodyguard, 5 bolters, 130 points.
Fast attack
3 Attack Bikes, 1 CC weapon. 151
Transport:
Rhino , Pintle Mounted storm bolter, searchlight, Smoke launcher. 64 pts
Total:1009 pts
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Space Wolves
Roboute Gulliman?? Pshaw, he can kiss my furry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/31 19:22:46
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Sidney (Home of Nothing), OH. USA
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I'm pretty sure your Wolf guard leaders can't take Frost Blades (I don't have my 'Wolves codex handy, atm, but I'll look it up and correct myself if I'm wrong). I usually run my HQ choices with my troops as leaders in lists this small. Saves some points to spend elsewhere, too (like a vindicator or predator).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/08/31 20:36:53
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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No wolfguard cannot take Frostblades but you can substitute a power weapn instead. The one major flaw I see is no anti vehicle unless your trying to count the 2 powerfists and melta gun.
Also the 5 wolfguard bodyguard are nice but could be replaced by another larger grey hunter squad which your commanders could join. Also you could remove the wolf guard leaders they're nice but they're a lot of extra points when you seem rather short on models. I have another thread I've been running which 1k lists feel free to go look at it for some ideas or ask questions since I'm still trying to finilize my list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/01 00:33:52
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Stormin' Stompa
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Those meltaguns are about as good as SW get for anti-tank. Not that meltaguns aren't good, but Long Fangs are terribly expensive.
Looks like someone bought the sw battleforce... I wish I had my old-style rhinos. Replace that wolf guard squad with a blood claws squad - it's cheaper and will be about as effective in this size game. I understand you may not have the models, but wounds are a good investment for space wolves.
I just sold my exterminator on ebay. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/01 04:41:26
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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I'd say take a look at the lists I posted you can put in a Pred Annihilator. A melta gun is nice but you have to be within 6" for it to be effective... I would hazard a guess any competant general would just keep the distance since most vehicle weapons have 36" range why would you move close?
Now you could give one of the bikes a meltagun which would be much more effective since you could run down other vehicles. I just would think any amount of tanks would run this army over since they do not have to be fearful of any shooting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/01 05:57:26
Subject: Re:Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
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Ok here's a revised version,
HQ:Rune Priest in Terminator armor and Storm Bolter. 100pts
Wolf Priest: Fang of Morkai 100 pts
Troops:
10 Grey Hunters, 9 bolters, 1 meltagun, wolf Pelt, wolf tooth necklace, 211pts
10 Blood Claws, 10 bolt pistols, 8 CC weapons, two powerfists. 182 points
10 Grey Hunters, 10 boltpistols. 190pts
Fast attack
3 Attack Bikes, 1 CC weapon. 151
Transport:
Rhino , Pintle Mounted storm bolter, searchlight, Smoke launcher. 64 pts
Total: 998 pts
I did buy Battleforce. I like the shape of the old rhinos too.
I have 20 Battle For Maccrage marines lying around, so I'll use 5 wolf guard guys in a squad of ten.
As far as tanks, I will mainly be playing my brother who is making an eldar army, with 1 tank and a wraithlord. Also the bikers should be able to get close and shoot twice each. and with this small of a list there probably won't be too many tanks.
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Space Wolves
Roboute Gulliman?? Pshaw, he can kiss my furry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/01 06:08:31
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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If your mostly playing your brother and Eldar your list should be fine. However I've looked through a lot of the 1k lists posted on this forum and some Imperial Guard armies with 4 tanks which would be basically Impossible for you to counter with this list. I your most playing an infantry only game this will be a fund list but its just a caution against playing others who will field tanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/01 06:38:14
Subject: Re:Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Your grey hunters can't take wolf pelts. Wolf Guard and ICs only.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/01 23:55:02
Subject: Re:Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
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Oops, wasn't much specifications about wolf pelts.
Anyway took that out and added 4 wolf tail talismans.
thanks for the help,
Invin
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Space Wolves
Roboute Gulliman?? Pshaw, he can kiss my furry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/02 02:58:13
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
wait wait wait wait... huh..?
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I would get rid of the attack bikes, and make them regular bikers. Give them meltaguns and you have some nasty tank hunters. But where Bikers excel is when they can be support for your CC squads. If you give the sergeant a power weapon, then, whenever one of your squads is in trouble, your bikes can charge in, dish out a few more power weapon attacks, and tip the balance in your favor.
'side from that it looks good
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/02 05:27:37
Subject: Re:Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Stormin' Stompa
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INVINCIBLE1214 wrote:Oops, wasn't much specifications about wolf pelts.
Anyway took that out and added 4 wolf tail talismans.
thanks for the help,
Invin
Only Characters (wolf guard squad leader, wolf guard battle leaders, wolf lord, priests) and vehicles have access to the wargear table - other units can only take the options mentioned in their list entry. Blood claws/hunters etc get cheaper powerfists/powerweapons than characters because their relative stats are lower and they've only got one wound. The only models in your list that can take wolf-tail talismans are hence the Rune Priest and Wolf Priest. So who did you give the four wolf tail talismans to? Why does one of the bikes have a CC weapon? Everyone has a CCW, and it only needs to be mentioned when they have enough to give them an extra attack (bolt pistol + chainsword). It looks like you paid one point for it out of the wargear section, but again, they don't have access to this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/02 21:09:57
Subject: Re:Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
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Are attack bikes the bikes with sidecars? I might have confused bloodclaws bikers and attack bikes. Also do Blood claws bikers have ike cost included or is that separate?
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Space Wolves
Roboute Gulliman?? Pshaw, he can kiss my furry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/02 21:34:51
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
wait wait wait wait... huh..?
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Attack bikes are the ones with side cars, they're more expensive than their regular biker bretheren because they tote around heavy bolters, +1 attack and wound. They're actually really good but I think that regular bikers would be better for your army.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/09/02 23:54:17
I play (homegrown chapter)
Win 8
Draw1
Loss1
Follow the word of the Turtle Pie. Bathe your soul in its holy warmth and partake in its delicious redemption. Let not the temptation of Lesser desserts divert you, for All is Pie, and Turtle is All
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/02 22:25:02
Subject: Re:Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
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ok, Messed up there.So now an addition is a land raider tornado, Which should help against tank, And Attack bikes are replaced with Blood claws bikers, 2 with meltaguns for anti tank, 1 with CC, as stated in options.So all I need to do now is paint 2 bikes, Rune Priests, Buy Land Speeder and wolf priest.
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Space Wolves
Roboute Gulliman?? Pshaw, he can kiss my furry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/02 23:53:07
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
wait wait wait wait... huh..?
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You might want to give your biker sarge a pw at least and maybe a melta bomb, and instead of getting a landspeeder, get another bike and some toys for your squads
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/09/02 23:53:51
I play (homegrown chapter)
Win 8
Draw1
Loss1
Follow the word of the Turtle Pie. Bathe your soul in its holy warmth and partake in its delicious redemption. Let not the temptation of Lesser desserts divert you, for All is Pie, and Turtle is All
97% of people have useless and blatantly false statistics in their sigs, if you are one of the 8% who doesn't, paste this in your sig to show just what a rebel you are |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/03 07:56:18
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Sydney
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My opinion is drop the bikers all together. Or get more. A squad of three is going to get knocked out very quickly and achieve very little. Despite the T5 they still only have one wound each. IMO Not survivable enough and don't really add much.
Also, pretty sure that you have to pay for power weapons on your characters. ATM, all your HQ units have is what you've listed there. Give the wolf priest a frost blade and the rune priest a rune blade. Gotta pay the points.
Also why does your rune priest have termie armour? Its unnecessary, your rune priest should be with one of your infantry squads casting storm caller and kicking ass in assault, he shouldn't ever be alone.
NOT ENOUGH POWER WEAPONS. Each grey hunter squad should have at least one power weapon, IMO two. That's where their strength lies, that's the whole point of playing space wolves. That's why you can't get heavy weapons in those squads. It gives your grey hunters significant punch and is why space wolves kick ass. NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT YOUR POWERFISTS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/07 01:53:37
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
PA
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Ok here's revamp:
5 bikes, 1 w/ Powerfists, 1 with meltagun,2 with cc, 1 with powerweapon
No landspeeder. no tail talismins either. Only thing I'm not sure of is whether to take wolf priest with fang of morkai, or chapter master with frost blade
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Space Wolves
Roboute Gulliman?? Pshaw, he can kiss my furry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/08 00:54:00
Subject: Re:Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
PA
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Which would work better a wolf priest or a Wolf Lord?
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Space Wolves
Roboute Gulliman?? Pshaw, he can kiss my furry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/08 05:40:04
Subject: Space Wolves 1000 pointer, Comments Welcome
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Stormin' Stompa
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Look at it this way - What can a wolf priest do that a wolf lord can't? Very similar statline, and it's up to how you intend to use him. I prefer a rune priest myself.
Wolf Priests have similar abilities to the old-fashioned SM apothecaries - however 5th ed Marine apothecaries confer Feel No Pain, which is similar but decidedly better. The fang of morkai isn't a weapon, it's a tool. Probably one you could use as a pretty fierce weapon, but a basic CCW either way.
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