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Hey, I was wondering if there was any specific information about the fight between Horus and the emperor
If not, and you have any ideas about what it would have been like, post it.
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Sanguinius tore a hole in Horus' armor before he was killed.
The pimp Emp kept hold back in the fight because he still loved Horus like a son. Horus had no compulsion to do likewise and tore the Emp a new one.
Finally the Emp realized he could not sway Horus back to the good side and that he was getting the shat kicked out of him... the Emp focused all his psychic powers into one tight death ray and blasted the Warmaster through the hole that Sanguinius had torn open in Horus' armor... Horus was lit up like a Christmas tree on Time Square and bought the farm.
Rogal Dorn was pissed off and slaved the remnant Emp to the Golden Throne.
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Green Blow Fly wrote:Basically the following happened:
Sanguinius tore a hole in Horus' armor before he was killed.
The pimp Emp kept hold back in the fight because he still loved Horus like a son. Horus had no compulsion to do likewise and tore the Emp a new one.
Finally the Emp realized he could not sway Horus back to the good side and that he was getting the shat kicked out of him... the Emp focused all his psychic powers into one tight death ray and blasted the Warmaster through the hole that Sanguinius had torn open in Horus' armor... Horus was lit up like a Christmas tree on Time Square and bought the farm.
Rogal Dorn was pissed off and slaved the remnant Emp to the Golden Throne.
So... is that in some book somewhere? Cause I'm writing the end all and be all of warhammer 40k post heresy fluff ( I'm kidding, not about the actual writing, but about it being end all and be all of 40k fluff... even I'm not that arrogant) And I just wanted to know if I was radically changing anything.
Also, Which primarchs actually died in the heresy?
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Ferrus Magnus was killed by Fulgrim at the Istvaan Dropsite massacre.
Sanginius was killed by Horus.
Horus was killed by the Emperor.
In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer
Magus was nearly killed by Russ, but fled into the warp. Corax was wounded unto death and carried off by his Raven Guard at Isstvan IV. Vulcan also scampered away.
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Johnson is missing, though Luther rants that he will return.
Primarch 2 is unknown
Fulgrim is a daemon prince of Slaanesh
Perturabo is a daemon price ruling over Medrengard
Khan is MIA, possibly captured by Dark Eldar
Russ is missing, he left with the 13th company and has yet to return
Dorn is dead, killed fighting abord a Chaos Battleship. The Fists have his bones.
Cruze was killed by M'Shen, a Callidus assassin.
Sanguinius died at Horus's feet on board Horus's flagship at the Battle of Terra
Manus had his head delivered sans body to Horus by Fulgrim at Istvaan.
Primarch 11 is unknown
Angron is a daemon prince of Khorne, lead the first war of Armageddon.
Guilliman is in stasis on Ultramar, mortally wounded by Fulgrim after the Heresy.
Mortarion is a daemon prince of Nurgle, he largely holds court over the Plague Planet and doesn't do much.
Magnus is a daemon prince of Tzeentch ruling the Planet of Sorcerers in the Eye of Terror
Horus died on his flagship by the Emperor's hand.
Lorgar is a daemon prince and rules over the daemon world of Sicarus
Vulkan was not seen after the battle of Istvaan V, his current status is unknown.
Corax survived the Heresy, then spent a year in solitary penance before setting course for the Eye of Terror.
Alpharius survived the Heresy and seems to have been killed by Guilliman years later. Reports are highly suspect but he has not been seen since.
So the final tally
Dead: 7
Missing: 7
Daemon Prince: 6
Penetrating so many secrets, we cease to believe in the unknowable. But there it sits nevertheless, calmly licking its chops.
It's notable that Fulgrim isn't himself anymore; when he killed Ferrus he went mad with grief and surrendered his body to the Daemon in his sword, so he's just a tormented soul stuck in the void.
Poor bloke.
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Shrike78 wrote:If not, and you have any ideas about what it would have been like, post it.
Here you go...
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Eldramesha wrote:Johnson is missing, though Luther rants that he will return.
Primarch 2 is unknown (killled by Horus when he travelled back in time and destroyed him before he got send in to space) Fulgrim is a daemon prince of Slaanesh (enslaved into a deamonsword and is now used by powerfull demon) Perturabo is a daemon price ruling over Medrengard
Khan is MIA, possibly captured by Dark Eldar
Russ is missing, he left with the 13th company and has yet to return
Dorn is dead, killed fighting abord a Chaos Battleship. The Fists have his bones.
Cruze was killed by M'Shen, a Callidus assassin.
Sanguinius died at Horus's feet on board Horus's flagship at the Battle of Terra
Manus had his head delivered sans body to Horus by Fulgrim at Istvaan.
Primarch 11 is unknown (Omegon, the twinbrother of Alpharius, he know rules in his place) Angron is a daemon prince of Khorne, lead the first war of Armageddon.
Guilliman is in stasis on Ultramar, mortally wounded by Fulgrim after the Heresy.
Mortarion is a daemon prince of Nurgle, he largely holds court over the Plague Planet and doesn't do much.
Magnus is a daemon prince of Tzeentch ruling the Planet of Sorcerers in the Eye of Terror
Horus died on his flagship by the Emperor's hand.
Lorgar is a daemon prince and rules over the daemon world of Sicarus
Vulkan was not seen after the battle of Istvaan V, his current status is unknown.
Corax survived the Heresy, then spent a year in solitary penance before setting course for the Eye of Terror.
Alpharius survived the Heresy and seems to have been killed by Guilliman years later. Reports are highly suspect but he has not been seen since.
The 2nd and 11th are still unknown regardless, Omegon doesn't count as a second Primarch. Horus saw the vision of the cracked capsule in his visions at Davin, he didn't crack it himself to my knowledge.
Penetrating so many secrets, we cease to believe in the unknowable. But there it sits nevertheless, calmly licking its chops.
I think that the 11th and the 2nd are the grey knights, and the Custodes
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Woah... that just made the universe much clearer, with that bit of wisdom, I am now equipped with the knowledge to get eh US out of both Iraq and the recession with nothing but the internet and a red paper clip
And why does everyone forget the 21st primarch, the leader of the green marines .... MASTER CHIEF!!!
sorry, the first part was what I actually think, then stuff got out of hand
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Actually, the 2nd and the 11th are NOT the Grey Knight and Custodes. The Custodes were made BEFORE the Primarchs. They helped the Emperor claim Terra. They are supposed to be greater than the Space Marines, and a close second to the Primarchs.
The Grey Knights are still a mystery, but one that you can piece together. They come on the scene AFTER the Heresy.
The 2nd and 11th Legions are left open for two reasons:
1. There were "lost" roman legions in history
2. It gives players a place to put their own legion if they want
Of course, the Horus Heresy books might change some of the older fluff, just as new material has replaced the old fluff. Remember the Star Child from the Realms of Chaos book? Some of the BEST fluff to be written about 40k, and it is not even mentioned anymore. Man, that was a good book.
(I realize that there were two Realms of Chaos books, but the first one was pretty weak. The one with Nurgle on the cover is what I am talking about.)
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I can still remember when a box of 30 Space Marines was $30.00. Now THAT'S old school! In fact, I started playing in the Rogue Trader days...yes, I am that old. Played Warhammer Fantasy for years before Rogue Trader even came out...
6,800 Pts. Ultramarines, 1,500 Pts. Deathwatch, 1,000 Pts. Black Templars, 1,000 Pts. Blood Ravens, 1,000 Pts. Emperors Children, 2,000 Pts. Word Bearers, 3,500 Pts. Eldar (Alaitoc or Biel-tan), 2,000 Pts. Tau, 2,000 Pts. Sisters of Battle, 999 Pts. of Thousand Sons, 1,000 Points Dark Eldar, 1,000 Points Adeptus Arbites, 1,000 Points Freebooters, 1,000 Points "Last Chancers", 1,000 Points Tyranids, 1,000 Points Necrons
2,500 Pts. Brotherhood, 2,000 Pts. Undead, 2,000 Pts. Sylvan Kin Elves, 2,000 Pts. Empire of Dust, 3,000 Pts. Orcs with Goblin Allies
5 Necromunda Gangs, 10 Mordheim Warbands, and 5 Frostgrave warbands
Actually, in the new SM codex, it states that the grey knights may be pre-heresy.
also... bump
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