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Emperor's Champion @ 140 Pts
Frag Grenades; Bolt Pistol; The Black Sword; Crusader Seals; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds

Reclusiarch @ 150 Pts
Crozius Arcanum; Thunder Hammer (x1); Crusader Seals; Holy Orb of Antioch; Rosarius; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds

10 Crusader Squad
Bolt Pistol (x9); Close Combat Weapon (x8); Meltagun; Power Fist; Neophytes; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds
1 Land Raider Crusader
Multi-Melta; Twin Linked Assault Cannon; Hurricane Bolters (x2); Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds; Extra Armor; Power of the Machine Spirit; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers
4 Neophytes
Bolt Pistol & CCW (x4)

7 Crusader Squad @ 486 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x6); Close Combat Weapon (x5); Meltagun; Power Fist; Neophytes; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds
1 Land Raider Crusader
Multi-Melta; Twin Linked Assault Cannon; Hurricane Bolters (x2); Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds; Extra Armor; Pintle-mounted Storm Bolter; Power of the Machine Spirit; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers
7 Neophytes
Bolt Pistol & CCW (x7)

10 Crusader Squad
Bolt Pistol (x1); Bolter (x8); Meltagun; Power Fist; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds
1 Rhino @ [59] Pts
Storm Bolter; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds; Extra Armor; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers

10 Crusader Squad @ 243 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Bolter (x8); Meltagun; Power Fist; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds
1 Rhino
Storm Bolter; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds; Extra Armor; Smoke Launchers

10 Crusader Squad @ 243 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Bolter (x8); Meltagun; Power Fist; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds
1 Rhino
Storm Bolter; Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds; Extra Armor; Smoke Launchers

Total Roster Cost: 2000

Any Criticism will be taken. and keep it coming. Say if you like it, say it if you don't. Freaked me out with what ever you think about the list. I would like to finish this army and bring it for regular gaming and tournaments.

Well, two LRCs and three Rhinos make a pretty straightforward mech army. Transports are more resilient in the new ed. You could stay inside and wait & see what the opponent does as there is an emergency exit.

This isn't bad for 2000 points. You really lack any ranged anti-tank, but as with most Templar lists, that isn't much of a problem.

I'm assuming that the EC and Reclusiarch go in the 7-man Squad's Raider? My only suggestion would be to make the two LRC Squad's 10-man units with an HQ in each. The Rhinos will be following up, and as such should not be carrying the bulk of your ground forces.

Not bad though -- having 2 LRCs, 3 Rhinos, and still making space for 49 models is decent.

CK

TY wuestenfux, this army is designated to do the same as any other mech army. Go forward, and then Localize and Destroy.

To Krieg, All of them gonna ben inside. LRC will bring 2 squads of 14 man, and 1IC each. EC w/ 10man marine 4 neo, and Chappy w/ 7man marine 7 neo. The reason being, if chappy charges, ALL will get reroll for 1st turn combat. Therefor, make neo more useful then just a body count for the marine. Searchlight might be sound so stupid, but I've experienced un-merciful beating becoz of stupid night fighting roll while I can't do anything about it.

Thanks for the clarification. I always had a hard time disseminating Army Builder lists on the Forums.

That's very solid thinking there. I do want to point out that a 95 point Reclusiarch will only be 135 points with a 30 point Thunder Hammer and 10 point Holy Orb of Antioch. I'm not sure where your other 15 points are coming from.

All in all, a nasty list. I've played around with fielding a similar list that would consist of 3 LRCs, 2 Chaplains, and 3 Vindicators. Something like this:

EC w/ Accept
Reclusiarch w/ BP
Reclusiarch w/ BP

10/4 Crusader Squad w/ PF, Melta, LRC (+EC)
10/4 Crusader Squad w/ PF, Melta, LRC (+Reclusiarch)
10/4 Crusader Squad w/ PF, Melta, LRC (+Reclusiarch)

Vindicator w/ PMS, Smoke, EA - 489
Vindicator w/ PMS, Smoke, EA
Vindicator w/ PMS, Smoke, EA

~1958 Points. I may be a little off, and I don't think I tabulated the Vehicle upgrades accurately. Either way, there's a little wiggle room to get it up to 2000. I think something like that would be absolutely disgusting to fight.

CK

That list scares me Corpsman. It scares me alot, because I know I am going to have to fight it in the not so distant future.

Yesss...

Hopefully sooner rather than later...

CK

I like both lists. Corpsman's is much scarier though.

you guys and your pie plates of mass destruction.......

The scary thing about my list is that if you toss the 12 Neophytes, you have an 1850 tournament list.

Extrenm(54), I think I know what I'm going to be throwing down at the next tourney at Borderlands...

CK

Corpsman_of_Krieg wrote:Thanks for the clarification. I always had a hard time disseminating Army Builder lists on the Forums.

That's very solid thinking there. I do want to point out that a 95 point Reclusiarch will only be 135 points with a 30 point Thunder Hammer and 10 point Holy Orb of Antioch. I'm not sure where your other 15 points are coming from.

All in all, a nasty list. I've played around with fielding a similar list that would consist of 3 LRCs, 2 Chaplains, and 3 Vindicators. Something like this:

EC w/ Accept
Reclusiarch w/ BP
Reclusiarch w/ BP

10/4 Crusader Squad w/ PF, Melta, LRC (+EC)
10/4 Crusader Squad w/ PF, Melta, LRC (+Reclusiarch)
10/4 Crusader Squad w/ PF, Melta, LRC (+Reclusiarch)

Vindicator w/ PMS, Smoke, EA - 489
Vindicator w/ PMS, Smoke, EA
Vindicator w/ PMS, Smoke, EA

~1958 Points. I may be a little off, and I don't think I tabulated the Vehicle upgrades accurately. Either way, there's a little wiggle room to get it up to 2000. I think something like that would be absolutely disgusting to fight.

CK

That is... 2291p, actually. 291p over points. 1470p for the LRC squads. Not giving blessed hull or smoke to the LRC's either, which are needed for Tournaments. Or any upgrades at all, for the chaps. You'd need to drop two vindis to bring it into 2000p. All three if you want to make the LRC's able to live a volley of Lance fire, or be covered well once you rush out of that cover. Sad, the list was looking so awesome. The cheapest 14 man squad in a tourney worthy LRC is 500p(7/7, melta, P-fist). Three of those is 1500p. You can have... The three HQ's, and then... 1 vindi, I think. Yea, one vindi. And 10p left over. I'd drop that, make the Chaps awesome. Not that that is a BAD list, it simply isn't as godly as yours, seeing as its legal. We all make mistakes though. Sorry my good sir, that is a 2500p list, not a 2000p one.

As for the List of the OP, I like it. I'd prefer a 2x LRC 1x LR approach, but this list looks pretty nice, all told. 5 Troop choices, it works. I'd see about dropping the squad sizes and making it 4 Rhinos, give you an extra squad. It's not like the extra guys will make them game winners anyway. And the extra squad could be a game winner.

You CAN have 4x 6 man squads in rhinos. About 10p cheaper then the 3x squad base. More special weapons, more fists, more damage, ect. I'd personally drop to plasma for anti inf, but your choice. 4x squads is better then 3x, I think. The rhinos should make the fact that they are smaller matter less, as you can use the rhinos to block LoS, so you shouldn't be shot up very much.

I think I know what I'm going to be throwing down at the next tourney at Borderlands...

Well that's one army I know will be coming. At least maybe this time I won't be the only marine player in the place...