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I've been thinking of ideas for a pure gretchin force (I'll have to proxy some stuff), here's what I came up with for an 1850 list..

(Gretchin Shaman) Old Zogwort - 145
(Gretchin Mek) Big Mek, Mega Armour, Boss Pole, Attack Squig - 95

29x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 117
29x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 117
29x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 117
28x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 114
28x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 114


5x Choppa, 5x Rokkit Launcha - 225
5x Choppa, 5x Rokkit Launcha - 225
5x Choppa, 5x Rokkit Launcha - 225

3x Zzap Guns, 6x additional Grots, (Squig Rider) Runtherd - 118
3x Zzap Guns, 6x additional Grots, (Squig Rider) Runtherd - 118
3x Zzap Guns, 6x additional Grots, (Squig Rider) Runtherd - 118

Total: 1848

2 HQ
5 Troop
3 Fast
3 Heavy

2 IC's
15 Jet Bikes
9 Artillery Batteries
173 Infantry

How do you think it would fair tactically in a competitive environment? (ignore the time factor, i'd make movement trays) Thanks in advance for your input!
~dan

i was just thinking of doing the same thing
drop 6 zzaps and go with 6 kanz , allthough it will hurt points.

big mek in mega armour?
ghaz model with no head, "grot driver" inside.
or, the metal black ork banner top as a head?
then its a stompy bot

I was also thinking about this list, tell me what you think.

Da Grotz Iz Rizen!

HQ
Warboss, Mega Armor, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Boss Pole - 130
Big Mek 35, Mega Armor, Cybork Body, Boss Pole, Attack Squig - 105

Troop
8x Meganobz, 8x Kombi Rokkits - 360
Deff Dread, Kustom Mega-Blasta, Rokkit Launcha, Grot Riggers, Armour Plates - 115
25x Grots, 2 Runtherds - 95

Dedicated Trans
Battlewagon, Hard Case, Armour Plates, Deff Rolla, Grot Riggers, Red Paint Job, Wreckin Ball, Zzap Gun, Rokkit Launcha, Grabbin' Klaw, Boarding Plank - 190

Fast
5x Choppa, 5x Rokkit Launcha - 225
5x Choppa, 5x Rokkit Launcha - 225
5x Choppa, 5x Rokkit Launcha - 225

Heavy
Killa Kan, Kustom Mega-Blasta, Grot Riggers - 60
Killa Kan, Kustom Mega-Blasta, Grot Riggers - 60
Killa Kan, Kustom Mega-Blasta, Grot Riggers - 60


Total 1850
4 Walkers
1 Tank
15 Jetbikes
10 Heavy Infantry (w/ 2 IC's)
27 Light Infantry

lol, drop all the orkish stuff barring old Zogwart who fits nicely, if ya gonna play grotz first thing ya do is take every grot you can squeeze in there.

30x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 120
30x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 120
30x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 120
30x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 120
30x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 120
30x Gretchin, 3x (Squig Riders) Runtherd - 120

196 core models for 720 pts.

HS you can do Kans or Big Gunz and the option is up to you, but personally my tastes turn towards taking Mad Dok Grotsnik and then Cyborking the entire army starting on the Big Gunz, this gives an extra 5 pts each to cybork em all but now you have this 5++ save...Your artillery suddenly gain survivability. I'd drop 3-6 Zzap Gunz and take Kannons instead, the flexibility of a Krak missile or a frag blast is equally useful here and more reliable then the Zzap Gunz.

3x Zzap Guns, 6x additional Grots, (Squig Rider) Runtherd - 118
3x Zzap Guns, 6x additional Grots, (Squig Rider) Runtherd - 118
3x Zzap Guns, 6x additional Grots, (Squig Rider) Runtherd - 118

The best Part about Mad Dok Grotsnik is that the unit he joins suddenly asides from running straight at the enemy, gains Feel No Pain, so a unit of 30 Grots and 3 Runtherds, whilst costing a solid 285pts, the weedy chaps have a 5++ save and a 4+ Feel No Pain Save, just watch as your opponents cringe. It gets better if you use one of the normal units of grots to run in front and give you that magical 4+ cpver save as well...

What are your thoughts?

Auretious Taak.

I think they are S2 T2 I2 and they are not as good as you think they are . Still fun, though.

Tacobake wrote:I think they are S2 T2 I2 and they are not as good as you think they are . Still fun, though.

I think you've missed the point entirely!

Auretious Taak wrote:

Tacobake wrote:I think they are S2 T2 I2 and they are not as good as you think they are . Still fun, though.

I think you've missed the point entirely!

I think you're right!

Would be fun to play against

and also they may be weak and fun but also have bs3 and a lot of shots coming from 30 gretchen

T2 means even bolters deny you FNP. So much for that idea.

Proxy Grotsnik and give them all Cybork bodies! 5+ insurance against instant death.

wow that looks incredibly fun to play and play with.

AHAHAHA nice!

I especially like the notion of grots driving around suits of mega armor. lol little mini kans...

Spif wrote:T2 means even bolters deny you FNP. So much for that idea.

Yeah, but who uses marines anymore? ...

It's a shame you can't get KFF on anything other than an HQ Mek. That would be nice for the whole force, but meh, that many bodies might not care a lot. Just stay the devil out of melee... that might end units really fast, needing say 6's to wound marines.

A mess of grots and killa kans though, does sound like an amusing "Uhm... I don't know that I will even fire that many rounds in a game" army to face.

Finally, an army that Hawks would have a fun time playing against. Grenade packs ftw!

You should make a model of a giant green tidal wave and proxy that as your entire army.

Haha! That makes me laugh Nofasse 'Eadhunta.

FnP ignored by bolters? Who cares, we have Cybork Bodies, and gretchin cover giving us a 4+ cover save anyways, and our cover gets 5++ saves so who cares! It's an amusing concept, totally unexpected and it churns out incredible amounts of point blank firepower that is more accurate then an Ork's ever is.

I actually saw a GT Army of Grots at some point and saved the image, it had 9 Kans, and a total of 204 models in the force, had some traks as well so yeah, amusing to saythe least, if I had the time, I'd host the pic to photobucket and post it here as it is an amusing army, lol.

I'm pretty sure without Grotsnik, at 1,500pts with 45 Kommando's you clock out at 289 models or there abouts having maxed Troops, Elites and HS choices completely, lol.

Heee.

Auretious Taak.