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2008/10/01 17:11:25
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Furious Raptor
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Seriously....
The ambiguity of this rule is stifling my existence.
What does "If more than one character in your army has the Chapter Tactics special rule you must choose which will apply." mean to you?
The problem is the "must choose which will apply" phrase I think. Whom can chose, all your guys wholesale or just some?
So its either;
A. You can choose which CT you get for each squad, or
B. Every unit has to choose the same CT and taking two Characters with CT special rule is dumb. D-U-M-B, dumb.
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2008/10/01 17:27:05
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Chapter Tactics applies to the whole army. So if two Characters have the Chapter Tactics rule, then you must decide which Chapter Tactics rule applies to the whole army.
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2008/10/01 19:37:59
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Bounding Assault Marine
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That phrase means (to me at least) that you can't have BOTH CT and must pick one for your army.
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2008/10/02 01:37:37
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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It's pretty clear cut because chapter tactics is never a squad by squad thing, it's a single rule on a character which happens to affect the whole army, you choose which characters single rule will affect your whole army.
Allmost every Chapter Tactics rule says "ALL units in your army..." so if you ever had a chapter tactic applied to only some units, even if it was just you tried to use shrike to give your assault marines fleet but keep combat tactics on your other units then you are breaking the requirements of that rule.
I think this is the only time I have seen that phrase brought into question by anyone, mind if I ask what prompted it?
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2008/10/02 14:51:11
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Furious Raptor
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Harkainos wrote:That phrase means (to me at least) that you can't have BOTH CT and must pick one for your army.
Thats how I see it too, but some players actually argued with me about it lol. Sounds reasonable to me.
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2008/10/02 15:51:50
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Tilter at Windmills
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Chapter Tactics affects the whole army. Pick one.
It's not necessarily dumb to have two such characters. It does add some tactical flexibility within a fixed-list environment like a tournament.
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2008/10/02 15:59:27
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Yes, they pick one at the start of the game. So, Lysander and Shrike are on the field - YES I wan't Lysander to have 'Hit and Run'
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2008/10/04 04:17:40
Subject: Chapter Tactics
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Harkainos wrote:Yes, they pick one at the start of the game. So, Lysander and Shrike are on the field - YES I wan't Lysander to have 'Hit and Run'
You DO realize that Lysander would only get hit and run if he joined Kosarro Khan's unit, right?
Edot: Actually if I remember correctly, he wouldn't even get it then... H&R is a rule that's lost if an IC without it joins the unit.
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