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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/01 17:59:02
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Ive always wondered...
why does the avatar of khaine have those things on his head? and why are they so like the khorne beserker heads?
Bloody handed god = blood god
Blood for the bloody handed god/blood god!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/01 20:17:35
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Serious Squig Herder
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Khaine is made of metal and likes to fight, and not because of all the blood. He's also on fire.
Khorne is always pissed and likes fighting because of all the skulls and blood. He's also red.
It may be because their headdresses look vastly similar that it is thought Khaine is Khorne. Or maybe because their names both start with Kh and end with ne.
Khaine cannot be Khorne because during The Fall, Slaanesh appeared. Khaine challenged Slaanesh and got his molten ass handed to him. That's how the Avatars appeared, they are all pieces of Khaine. Shame the Eldar don't put him back together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/01 21:58:24
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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I'll write an article on this if people want to contribute. We have covered it here before I think. There should be information at the Lexicanum and otherwise online I think.
Eldar Pathenon:
Khaine (Khorne?)
Vaul
Laughing God (Slannesh?)
Others ... ?
nevermind.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Eldar#Eldar_Gods
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/01 23:28:04
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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No no no. the Laughing God is NOT Slaanesh. He is the only intact god in the Eldar pantheon, having hidden in the webway, or in some tales behind Khaine, to escape Slaanesh during the Fall.
Khaine might be Khorne, it is not 'proven'; but reasonably likely. However if Khaine is Khorne he is a breakaway fragment of the deity and not a cosmic joke to steal Eldar souls. Khorne is not that subtle. Also Khaine can be reasoned with and is as far as we can make out loyal to the Eldar cause. You don't get the idea that the Eldar lose their subtlety or reason while fighting alongside Khaine. When Eldar have their helmets on they are more ready to kill, but are by no means controlled. All in all he likely has connections to Khorne, but is not Khorne.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/02 05:21:28
Subject: Re:Khaine=Khorne
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
Atlanta
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I think they are supposed to be one and the same in fantasy but not in 40k.
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Penetrating so many secrets, we cease to believe in the unknowable. But there it sits nevertheless, calmly licking its chops.
* H. L. Mencken, in Minority Report (1956)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/08 06:53:06
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Maybe Khorne is the darker side of Khaine. All those who died at Kaine's hands over the millenium and in his name may have given form to the immaterium and produced Khorne.
Khorne then would be a corrupt chaotic version of Khaine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/08 07:09:00
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Fresh-Faced New User
Yep
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I dont think that khain and khorn are even remotely related.
The way i see it they were created by 2 completely different races psychic signature on the warp.
I see the eldar gods as more of a mythology type deal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/08 13:51:38
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Killer Klaivex
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Well Khorne is possibly the oldest god currently in existence. He's existed since the first thought of violence in the universe.
Maybe Khaine is a fragment of Khorne, a bit of the whole martial honour thing.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/08 15:29:53
Subject: Re:Khaine=Khorne
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Pete Haines
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Both are manifestation of wartime emotions, but in different ways. Khorne is unleashed fury, rage and killing to the detriment of all others, and Khaine is the noble form of war, taking to arms to defend the weak and crush the unjust.
However, it has also been argued that the Eldar gods are not manifestations of emotions at all (as the Chaos gods are), but instead are the ascended forms of the Old Ones who created the Eldar, and hence not bound to any specific archetype or emotion. The old ones are the beings who created the vast majority of the humanoid creatures in the galaxy to try and fight their war with Chaos and the C'Tan. By extension, it could therefore be assumed that all the Gods of the humanoid races are the old ones who created that race (i.e. The Emperor for humans).
The obvious exception to this would be the Orks. Though clearly an engineered race (See: Brain Boyz, Genetic Memory), they appear to have been created in such a fashion as to forge their own extremely powerful Gods to try and fight Chaos in the Warp itself, and to that end seems to be partially successful.
The Tau are another notable exception, in that though they have many humanoid features, they are not the product of the Old Ones. Instead, they are the result of the meddling of the Eldar, who, after their own failure in combating Chaos and the C'Tan, sought to create their successor for when time eventually catches up to them. Xenology lists the story of a race of Insectoids whose Queen was stolen from them by the Eldar. Shortly afterwards, in the middle of the Tau civil way, a mysterious 5th caste show up, with diamond shaped organs suspiciously similar to the pheromone emitters from the Quorl Queen, who manage to settle down the whole Tau race in days. Also note the Tau have little to no warp presence, meaning they contribute almost nothing to the power of Chaos.
Ok, that's enough of all that for now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/08 21:43:27
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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First, know that different source will give you different answers. I don't think WH40K, WHFB, the roleplaying game and the MMORPG will give you the same answer.
khorne: Blood god in most game
Khaine: a violent god. In the RPG, it use to be a god of revenge. In the second edition of the rpg, I don't remember reading about him. In the mmorpg, I think he is a dark elves god of some sort.
The list goes on...
But mostly, Khorne is not Khaine
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/09 16:27:20
Subject: Re:Khaine=Khorne
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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40k-wise, they are still very similar (*cough*bloody hand*cough*)
but i admit they also have many differences
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/09 17:00:56
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
Houston
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I look at it like some of the Hindu deities. Khaine is an aspect of Khorne. He represents a sort of noble vengance, which is sort of the focussed, driven side of Khorne. They're different, but the same. I want to say that there were some allusions to this in the last Malus Darkblade novel. . .
Brice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/26 00:31:39
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
Burnaby, British Columbia
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If they are indeed different gods, then on the same level, since it is thought that khaine is Mork and Gork is some other god, could Gork be khorne? remember, Mork is the god of cunnin' brutality, and Gork is the god of brutal cunnin', I would say that since khorne is all about smahin' da humies and breaking their stuff, he fits Gork more (being more brutal). since Khaine is all about da strategizement, he fits mork more, since he is da more kunnin' one. Orkz is best!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/27 19:10:06
Subject: Khaine=Khorne
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I don't think the fine and subtle gods of the Ork are related to chaos. But, I don't have anything to back this
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