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This question came up over on the-waaagh and I wondered what the broader community thought about it. I'm looking for 'how would you play this' as I'm more interested in tactics that are usable in a real game context, rather than RAW-heavy arguments that are more likely to lose friends than win games.

Some Ork transports can take a 'Boarding Plank'. The relevant wording from Codex:Orks is:

...allows a single embarked Ork to make its close combat attacks against an enemy vehicle... exactly as if the Ork were disembarked and charging...

I can't find anything that would prevent this being done against walkers as they are included in the set of 'vehicles' and there's nothing in the plank rules that would prevent it being done against a vehicle with a WS. If anyone can find something to prevent this, please select option 1 and post to say what you've found.

Assuming this is possible, it seems reasonable to me that the Ork would roll against the Walker's WS ('as if disembarked and charging'). If anyone can see a reason why the Ork would roll against the Walker's movement distance from the previous turn, please select one of the relevant options and post to say what the reason was.

The next question is can the Walker hit back? I can see both sides of this one. The 'for' side is that if the Ork were disembarked and charging, it would be locked in combat with the Walker, and of course the Walker would get to attack in that Assault phase. The 'against' side is that the Ork using the plank doesn't lock the Walker in combat, nor is it assaulting the Walker - it is just allowed 'to make its close combat attacks', which doesn't include the Walker hitting back.

All opinions welcome and respected!

you forgot to mention that if the model has furious charge i would give him that bonus as well.

I was trying to stay away from posting too much of the rules so I trimmed out anything that wasn't directly relevant to the question. But yes, if he gets to make his attacks, the Ork would get the furious charge bonus.

I think that you could assualt the walker but it is written that it is as if you disembarked and charged and by that the walker would get to attack back, this raises the question who gets hit the ork or the trukk?

If it's "as if disembarked", then the Ork takes the smack back... or specificly the unit, which means you could take the return casualties on joe-schmoe troopers.

It says the ork gets to make attacks, not to resolve a close combat between the ork and the target. I see no reason for the walker to be able to attack back.

I agree with ph34r. Seems pretty clear cut to me, you make the attacks as if the model was disembarked and charging and that's it. Nothing in the rule allows the walker to strike back.

i dont think its that clear cut, as it an assualt you have started, and in an assualt both parties strike

Squig_herder wrote:i dont think its that clear cut, as it an assualt you have started, and in an assualt both parties strike

No assault has been started. Read the rule again, the model just gets to make its attacks. Everything else is wishful thinking.

I think this is exactly like the Swooping Hawk rule that said they hit any vehicle on a 4+. Then it was FAQed as any vehicle "without a WS" since Haywires were going on Dreads on a 4+ instead of a 6+. They just didn't think about vehicles with a WS (it has happened before...).

Of course some FAQ will come out and refute this, justifying the slip with a stretch of fluff.

I don't think the walker would get to attack back, but if it does - I would say that is against the vehicle (which probably moved)

This thread makes me giggle.

I'm with fear and yak on this one.

I second the giggling. That is a way tough call that I wouldn't want to encounter in a tournament game.

- Blackbone

Blackbone wrote:I second the giggling. That is a way tough call that I wouldn't want to encounter in a tournament game.

- Blackbone

I was about to say "in a tournament, I'd just dice it and move on. after all, what's 1 model's worth of attacks going to change either way?"



Until my brain told me "hey dummy, 3 free S9 powerklaw attacks on your precious dread, with no retribution? hell yes that's gonna sway the match a tad...."



For the record, I also fall into the "model get's his shots, no attacks back, moving on." My RAI ruling is otherwise. This would be wishful thinking on the fluffy side of my brain, but still. Same feelings on the Power of the Machine Spirit vs. Smoke Launcher issue. My fluff brain says no way, my RAW side says "*sigh* fire away, damnable land raider."

it wouldn't be 3 S9 attacks. If I was doing it, it'd be 6 S10 attacks at WS5...

I though furious charge only worked on the charge. I do not have the ork dex infront of me but I do not think it counts as a charge unless the vehicle option says it does. Since technically the ork is not "Charging" then the nobs str, would be 8.

What part of...

...allows a single embarked Ork to make its close combat attacks against an enemy vehicle... exactly as if the Ork were disembarked and charging...

... is unclear that it IS a charging set of attacks? Strength 9.