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List A:

(HQ) Daemon Prince of Nurgle with Wings, Mark Of Nurgle, and Warptime
(Fast Attack) 7 Chaos Raptors with 2 Flamers inc Champion with Lightning Claws & Meltabombs

(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators
(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators
(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators

(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino


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List B:

(HQ) Daemon Prince of Nurgle with Wings, Mark Of Nurgle, and Warptime
(Fast Attack) 12 Chaos Raptors with 2 Flamers inc Champion with Lightning Claws & Meltabombs + Nurgle Icon

(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators
(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators

(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino


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List C:

(HQ) Daemon Prince of Nurgle with Wings, Mark Of Nurgle, and Warptime
(Fast Attack) 10 Chaos Raptors with 2 Flamers inc Champion with Lightning Claws & Meltabombs + Nurgle Icon

(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators
(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators
(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators

(Troop) 9 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 9 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 9 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino


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List A.

The Raptors are your throw-away unit. Safer with more Obliterators.

As for the third list I think you are better off with a 4th pair of special weapons and a 4th Powerfist.

There is another option.

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List D:

(HQ) Daemon Prince of Nurgle with Wings, Mark Of Nurgle, and Warptime
(Fast Attack) 7 Chaos Raptors with 2 Flamers

(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators
(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators
(Heavy) 2 Chaos Space Marine Obliterators

(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino
(Troop) 7 Chaos Space Marines Plague Marines with 2 Melta Guns inc Champion with PowerFist & Rhino

+ Other. Terminators maybe? Also, Havoc Launchers on the Rhinos.

Just a suggestion.

All lists are rather similar with small variation.
Generally, I'd replace the Raptors by a large (shock & awe) Terminator squad.

Depending on wat battle ground you are playing and wat the mission is, these are lists lack alot, they have to many of the same unites, and a few to many oblidz.

BDA

I have always found Raptors in small numbers aren't very effective.....but that is my personal opinion. If you're going to upgrade your Rhinos, stick a combi-melta on them. They are cheap and can lend to the fight....assuming they make it past the first turn. Lately i've put my DP back in the box and have gone with a standard Lord....stick him in with your raptors, give him a Daemon Weapon and watch the killing begin....

But alas....it is entirely up to you....Plague Marines IMHO are the way to go....you just can't kill them all before they get you.....unless of course your dice are sucking!

ohm242 wrote:I have always found Raptors in small numbers aren't very effective.....but that is my personal opinion. If you're going to upgrade your Rhinos, stick a combi-melta on them. They are cheap and can lend to the fight....assuming they make it past the first turn. Lately i've put my DP back in the box and have gone with a standard Lord....stick him in with your raptors, give him a Daemon Weapon and watch the killing begin....

But alas....it is entirely up to you....Plague Marines IMHO are the way to go....you just can't kill them all before they get you.....unless of course your dice are sucking!

How big does a Raptor squad need to be before they're effective? With/Without the Nurgle Icon?

My plan for the Raptors was to hop them around with the Daemon Prince, even though he can't actually attach to the unit.