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Hi all,
I'm getting my 5th Ed rulebook in a few weeks, and then planning on tearing down and re-doing my BA as a playable army from the start. My goal is to assemble one army with a scaleable army list... Here's what I've got so far after a little while with the Codex PDF:


1k
100 Chaplain (not really sure how/if to kit him)
230 Tac Squad, 10 men, Meltabomb, Power Weapon, Meltagun, Missile Launcher
280 Assault Squad, 10 men, meltabombs, Power Fist
140 Baal Pred, Heavy Flamers, Extra Armor
155 Furioso Dreadnought, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod
Remaining 90 pts (for either Chaplain kit or extra DC, seeing as there's only two DC now)


15k
100 Chaplain (same questions)
100 Corbulo
230 Tac Squad (same as above)
280*2 Assault Squad (same as above)
160 Scounts, 10 men, Heavy Bolter (not sure how to arm the grunts)
205 Honor Guard, 1 Plasma Pistol, 1 Flamer, 2 Meltabombs, Razorback w/ HBs
140 Baal (same as above)
155 Furioso (same as above)
Remaining 30pts, again for Chaplain or extra DC (currently 5)

For 1850(1750? Which is more normal?) I'd like to fit an Assault Terminator squad, and maybe another transport option. My feelings in general were to make the Tac squad the shooty base, supported by the Baal... The Assault Squad maybe Deep Strikes, the Furioso drops on whatever's meanest and breaks it's face... Chaplain w/ the DC (obviously. When going up to 15k, I see the Assault squads engaging targets, supported by the Baal, and the dropped Furioso, with the Tac squad and Scouts as firebases/objective holding. Honor Guard w/ Razorback and Corbulo do... something... I like them for the flavor, but don't really know how to use them.

How'm I doing? Is this list a disaster? I'm never really sure what upgrades to give who, and from what I've heard, Rending got nerfed...

The best way of configure a BA chaplain is Lemartes.

And as a BA player,you should pay more attention to controlling the average cost of every man.

So Lemartes is the most effective Chaplain solution? Should I be running DC w/ Jump-Packs as well?

Not sure what you mean on the second part... did I over-kit? I want to be able to hit hard in assault and bring alot of spray templates.

I'm still lookin for some help here... I want to get whatever I'm missing bought so next quarter at college I can build these buggers...

Bump... here's what I've got after some revisions:

1k
125 Lemartes
205 Tac Squad, Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun
280 Assault Marines, 10 men, MeltaBomb, Love Glove
140 Baal, Flamers, Extra Armor
155 Furioso, DP, Heavy Flamer
DC, +1, JP, 3 total
5pts leftover


15k
125 Lemarts
205 Tac, 10 men, Plasma Gun, Missile Launcher, Rhino
280 Assault, 10 men, Meltabomb, Love Glove
140 Baal, Flamers, ExAr
155 Furioso, DP, HFlamer
200 Assault Terminators (don't know claws or hammers are better)
140 Scouts, 10 men, 5 shotguns, 5 chainswords
185 Tac Squad, Razorback, Meltagun, Plasma Cannon
DC, JPs, 4 total
15k Even

For the 15k, which from what I understand is pretty much the standard game size to play at? I was seeing the Rhino squad and the Razorback squad driving up the middle TurboCharged, disembarking, and laying down a firing line, or plunking down on two objectives and sitting tight. Baal advances with the transports and provides fire support/swarm protection. Scouts infiltrate and tie up a unit in assault. Furioso, Termies, Assault Squad, and Lemartes/DC Deep Strike and engage close in.
I guess then if I moved up to 2k, I'd like to add Corbulo and an Honor Guard with a Razorback and some guns.
Does this look good? Am I going to have success with this?, or get splattered?

Alright recommendation is to focus what you want to do...

Baal Predator sounds like a rhino rush.

Furioso sounds better with a drop pod...

How about this for an 1850 idea?

Lemartes 125
Captain w 2 Ltng Claws and JumpPack 150

Honor Guard: 2 w Melta, Champion, Standard w PW, Vet w PF and Tech adept with Jump Packs 265

Assault Terminators 200

Death Company Furioso: Melta, Hvy Flamer, Extra Armor in Drop Pod 195

Scout Squad: Sgt w PF, 5 Shotguns, 4 CCW

Assault Company: 10 w PF

Oops hit the submit...

Again

Captain & Lemartes : 275

Termies & Dread: 395
Scouts: Sgt w PF, 5 Shotguns, 4 CCW 170
2 x Tac Squads: Drop pods or Rhinos... Flamer, MultiMelta 255 ea 510

2 x Assault Squads: Sgt w PF 275 ea 550

275 HQ

565 Elites

560 Troops

1400 points

This qualifies for 6 Death company... Jump Packs +30 add 4 DC with JP 140

1570 spent...

Now you can fill it out with a couple heavies of your choice to get to 1850. Say two Baal Predators

Personnally, lose the scout squad and maybe look at a Veteran Assault squad. Maybe lose the dread for another terminator squad.
Scouts and dreads don't add free Death Company..Veteran Assault and Terminators Do.

Max the Death Company, it rends, it feels no pain and with Lemartes, you are rerolling hits...

The captain with the honorguard should do you fine also...

Both of those sound like good ideas... I think the second one would make a solid 1850 setup that is nice and fluffy and effective... I don't understand where 395 comes from on the second list for Assault Terminators and a Dread, unless you're using a normal dread? On my 15k I was thinking about a VAS, but I don't know how to kit it or fit it in... I have a ton of Scout models, so I'd like them to fit in somewhere I'd also like to be able to use Corbulo instead of a Captain, but then he can't jump with a jumping HG.