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more power to you! if I every played DA i would give you mine.

their secret shouldn't be that they aren't competative, i hope jervis takes notice, this game needs to be balanced.

Deadshane1 wrote:The Dark Angel Codex is NOT competetive. That isnt to say some really good players out there suck and cannot place well.

I've currently got a record of 11 wins and 1 loss in tournements with my DA, that isnt the issue.

The issue is anything DA can do, Marines do better...with the exact same equiptment....and TONS more options and new toys to boot.

As I initially said in my first post. You think DA are fine? More power to you, I commend you for sticking with it. There are those of us DA players that ARE angry and feel shafted by the new marine dex. Those are the people I'm addressing. I fail to see whats so difficult to understand about that. Everyone knows how great you all are by being able to "compete" with the codex as it is....will you please leave now?

thats quit an argument you have on your hands. on one side, their competative in tournament play. On the other if your just bsing their's no saying that you can't just have the same equipment for the same price amungst your friends. On top of that you can just talk to the FLGS about a local faq to fix the thing. GW made their choice, I hope this helps but good luck. honestly I'm afraid that with gw's nerf policy that soon every space marine army will become the same.

and btw your picture scares the gak out of me.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Never seen someone get 'pissed off' at a dice roll. Seen plenty of frustration and gnashing of teeth....

And please be wary of false impressions...Threads complaining about balance etc, x number of people attending a Tournament...GW putting on Tournaments. This is no evidence of a majority at all.

Complaint threads are ten a penny, and most consist of the same people spouting the same information ad infinitum. How many people post on Warseer, regularly? How many gamers are there, world wide? Start to look at it like that, and you get some perspective. I use Warseer because to my knowledge it's the largest community.

48,000 members, roughly a quarter of which are listed as active (though there is nothing to define what active qualifies as!). Now, of these, and from my own experience of that particular board, there are maybe 50 or 60 complainers that turn up in every. single. thread. And it's the same old arguments wheeled out time and again. And the same comments. From the same posters. With the same lack of will to see any other perspective.

Hardly conclusive evidence of a community up in arms, is it?

mad doc, seriously think about what your saying.

over the course of my lifetime i've spent at least $2k on 40k. i'm 18.

i have gripped about unbalanced lists, rules and other gaming related problems but thats with my local FLGS.

at my job they tell us that only 1 out of every 10 people will tell you that something is wrong. most people just ignore it and go on. if you want someting done right, give it to a dick and listen! you don't get an A+ math 1010 paper by having your mum read over it and say how lovely it is, you have some guy you pissed off in class slaughter a lamb over it with red ink.

a storm shield, 3+/3+ a storm shield -/4+ i mean, 3+/5+ wait no 5+/2+ no, ah damn it.

its all the same thing, it should be the same thing, i drive a car, i drive an elephant, nevermind lets call it your mum and say I ride it.

personally this isn't the biggest gripe i have with GW right now,(every army being clasified by an IC that every damn army has, Vulcan/Pedro) but if they can't even keeps the stats the same across the board, spell check their codex's, hell even give a damn about the gamer community this will be the start.

i wonder if there's people like you that defend wallmart who fire workers if they don't stay late with no pay, are antiunion, and encourage their full time employee's to get foodstamps. GW's a big boy they should know that microsoft word can catch over half the errors that they copy paste. and give the codex to a bunch of gamers and they'll catch that a vindicator is ordanance on one page and not on the other.