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2008/10/14 22:03:00
Subject: here's a good one...
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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saw a guy claim that his skimmer which had just rammed a tank got a cover save against the hit to him because he had moved flat out. doh...
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2008/10/14 22:07:09
Subject: Re:here's a good one...
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Martial Arts Fiday
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BGB pg 71, Shooting at Skimmers, 1st para, last sentence:
...counts as obscured (cover save of 4+) when fired at.
That would be the part they failed to read.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/10/14 22:08:41
"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
 warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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2008/10/14 22:15:49
Subject: here's a good one...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
Houston
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Doesn't the ramming rule only apply to tanks?
Brice
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/10/14 22:20:01
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2008/10/14 22:18:35
Subject: here's a good one...
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Yes, Skimmers can be Tanks as well.
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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2008/10/14 22:20:33
Subject: here's a good one...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
Houston
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Yes, but tanks don't move flat out. . .
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2008/10/14 22:24:57
Subject: here's a good one...
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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BBeale wrote:Yes, but tanks don't move flat out. . .
A skimmer tank does.
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2008/10/14 22:25:51
Subject: here's a good one...
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Martial Arts Fiday
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'nuff said.
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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2008/10/14 22:27:42
Subject: here's a good one...
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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SO can my landspeeder ram a tank or not?
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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2008/10/14 22:29:32
Subject: here's a good one...
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
Murfreesboro, TN
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Nyet, tovarisch.
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As a rule of thumb, the designers do not hide "easter eggs" in the rules. If clever reading is required to unlock some sort of hidden option, then it is most likely the result of wishful thinking.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake;
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
Member of the "No Retreat for Calgar" Club |
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2008/10/14 22:31:18
Subject: here's a good one...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
Houston
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No, a landspeeder cannot. It's not a tank.
Brice
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2008/10/15 00:21:11
Subject: here's a good one...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Except that since neither the ramming skimmer tank nor the vehicle being rammed is shooting at the skimmer, the moving fast cover save doesn't apply.
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2008/10/15 01:29:12
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Exaclty, that was covered about 9 posts ago.
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! |
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2008/10/15 03:10:50
Subject: here's a good one...
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Double ramming wave serpents GO GO!!
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 "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
-Joseph Stalin
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2008/10/15 03:22:00
Subject: here's a good one...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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skimmers can make a dodge if they're rammed, though.
edit: p71 of the small rulebook gives them a 3+ save against rams, apparently
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/10/15 03:23:05
Went digging through my old posts, and guess what? I've been hating on mat ward since before it was cool
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/244212.page |
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2008/10/15 04:29:48
Subject: here's a good one...
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Mutating Changebringer
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dumbuket wrote:skimmers can make a dodge if they're rammed, though.
edit: p71 of the small rulebook gives them a 3+ save against rams, apparently
Note that the "dodge" save skimmer have against being rammed cannot be taken when the ramming tank is also a skimmer.
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2008/10/15 17:22:06
Subject: here's a good one...
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Wow... that hurts my brain. IIRC, you need to move a FULL 24" in order to be 'flat out' - so if you were 'just outside' 24" the ram doesn't happen and 'just inside' 24" you wouldn't be flat out, nor get the +6 to your roll.
Even if a skimmer could ram with a 24" fartwind onto a tank (getting the flatout obscured roll), which it can't, it would be very very very improbable.
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Please note - terms like 'always/never' are carried with the basic understanding that there are exceptions to the rule, and therefore are used to mean generally...
 
"I do not play people who blatently exploit the rules to their own benefit, in any game. It is disrespectful to the game designers and other players." |
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2008/10/15 17:29:10
Subject: here's a good one...
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Harkainos wrote:Wow... that hurts my brain. IIRC, you need to move a FULL 24" in order to be 'flat out' - so if you were 'just outside' 24" the ram doesn't happen and 'just inside' 24" you wouldn't be flat out, nor get the +6 to your roll.
Even if a skimmer could ram with a 24" fartwind onto a tank (getting the flatout obscured roll), which it can't, it would be very very very improbable.
Huh? I though flat out was over 12"
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2008/10/15 17:56:50
Subject: here's a good one...
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Bounding Assault Marine
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IIRC, it is MAX SPEED over 12" for skimmers, that is 24"... but I am sure I am wrong. I am mostly.
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Please note - terms like 'always/never' are carried with the basic understanding that there are exceptions to the rule, and therefore are used to mean generally...
"I do not play people who blatently exploit the rules to their own benefit, in any game. It is disrespectful to the game designers and other players." |
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2008/10/16 04:49:47
Subject: here's a good one...
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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yeah, I know with 100% certainty that flatout is anything between 13-24"
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Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).
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