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since vulkan is going to be so popular, I thought I'd come up with a few flamer/meta list for him. here is one I came up with.

Vulkan-190
Master of the forge+digital weapons - 110
total HQ-300

Elites
Dreadw/multi-melta+Hflamer- 115
Dreadw/multi-melta+Hflamer- 115
Dreadw/multi-melta+Hflamer- 115

troops
10 marines+Multi melta+flamer+HBrazorback - 210
10 marines+Multi melta+flamer+HBrazorback - 210
10 marines+Multi melta+flamer+HBrazorback - 210
5 marines+HB razorbac - 130

Heavy support
Dreadw/multi-melta+Hflamer- 115
Dreadw/multi-melta+Hflamer- 115
Dreadw/multi-melta+Hflamer- 115

total - 1750

twinlinked heavy flamer and twinlinked multi-melta for 115 pts is just too good.

this build won't do so well against the 120 ork boyz+45 lootas+KFF army that is becoming standard for orks, but against most things this list will do well.

Looks fun. I think 6 ironclads are a lot scarier than than 6 normal dreadnoughts. Walking dreads won't do that much damage.

I'd mount all units into drop pods. Then the flamers are eventually in range when the Dreads or Tacticals appear.

i like it,looks alot of fun to play against and with.

Yep the Forge buddies list, one that will pop up from time to time I think. This is fine if you don't wanna use pods, but it is probably more competive in pods with some ironclads, even with dropping to 2 tacticals or losing a dread to fit it all in 1750.

If leaving as is, I'd drop the 5 man w/ razorback and kit out the other squads some more (combi weapons, power weapon or fist, maybe a melta instead of a flamer, etc)

the problem with pods is the you are spending 35 (or more) per dreadnought.

AV 13-14 are the only armor values that you really need the extra 2d6 to pen, and even then a glance will kill with ap1, so I think that at 1750, the points spent on 6 drop pods for the dreads are wasted points, as you are only really worried about hammerheads (which you kill on a 3+ when penetrating) and Landraider. those are only for very specific builds of very specific armies. anything else you don't really need to worry about as much.

at 2000, absolutely, 6 ironclads dropping first turn is awesome, but at 1750, I really don't know about spending 200+ points on the doppods for the dreads, it seems like those points could be better spent.

the 5 man in the HB razor could be dropped for more kit, true, I just like having the 4 twinlinked scoring heavy bolters to cause mayhem while the enemy is desperately trying to kill your dreds.

it's not totally uber, but it is a build that people will have to consider at 1750 points, as I think it will come up at tournys.

Also, running the dreads first turn while popping smoke will cause them to be in the enemies face aot sooner then they are ready to deal with them, if you are really concerned about range.

Much like my version of this list, you have a issue when you play quarters or dawn of war. i.e. You are at a big disadvantage and will be going uphill all day in either case.