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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 17:33:31
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Squishy Squig
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I apologize if this is an old question, but I couldn't seem to locate the answers. How does an attack squig effect the power Klaw? Does it give you an extra klaw attack? Do mandiblasters effect the Scorpions Claw the same way? Yesterday in a game I had a Warboss with a klaw and squig come up against the scorp exarch with mandiblasters and Claw. We both thought it worked differently. It'd be great if someone could help me out. Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 17:47:25
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Proud Phantom Titan
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ok easy to explain Attack Squig/Mandiblasters give you +1A ... having 2 CC weapons gives you +1A but you can't get this with a power fist you need a pair (or similar) so going from the Scorpion he's got a claw, a chainsword and Mandiblasters ... when he's using the claw he gets his base attacks + 1A for charging (if he did) + 1A for the Mandiblasters but nothing for the chainsword as its not compatible ... EDIT (this chunk isn't need / not right) this has been covered here on dakka but also in some of the FAQs on the GW website
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 18:07:00
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Tri wrote:ok easy to explain Attack Squig/Mandiblasters give you +1A ... having 2 CC weapons gives you +1A but you can't get this with a power fist you need a pair (or similar)
so going from the Scorpion he's got a claw, a chainsword and Mandiblasters ... when he's using the claw he gets his base attacks + 1A for charging (if he did) + 1A for the Mandiblasters but nothing for the chainsword as its not compatible ...
... on the other hand; to the best of my knollege (i half remember something about to many special weapons no giving bounses); if he strikes with his chainsword he gets his base attacks + 1A for charging (if he did) + 1A for the Mandiblasters and +1A for haveing a second CC weapon (the fist)
this has been covered here on dakka but also in some of the FAQs on the GW website
Sadly. the Scorpion doesn't ever get the +1A from an additional CCW. As per the BGB to get an additional attack with a PF, you must have another PF. Also, if you have a special weapon, you must use it.
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Quote: Gwar - What Inquisitor said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 18:07:30
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Martial Arts Fiday
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You can never gain the "+1 A for two weapons" with a model armed with a Power Fist (or equivilant) without two of the same weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 18:18:27
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Proud Phantom Titan
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InquisitorFabius wrote:Tri wrote:ok easy to explain Attack Squig/Mandiblasters give you +1A ... having 2 CC weapons gives you +1A but you can't get this with a power fist you need a pair (or similar)
so going from the Scorpion he's got a claw, a chainsword and Mandiblasters ... when he's using the claw he gets his base attacks + 1A for charging (if he did) + 1A for the Mandiblasters but nothing for the chainsword as its not compatible ...
... on the other hand; to the best of my knollege (i half remember something about to many special weapons no giving bounses); if he strikes with his chainsword he gets his base attacks + 1A for charging (if he did) + 1A for the Mandiblasters and +1A for haveing a second CC weapon (the fist)
this has been covered here on dakka but also in some of the FAQs on the GW website
Sadly. the Scorpion doesn't ever get the +1A from an additional CCW. As per the BGB to get an additional attack with a PF, you must have another PF. Also, if you have a special weapon, you must use it.
Scorpion exarch get 2 special weapon my second point was i can rember if having 2 special weapon also lost you the bounse attack (Scorpion chainsword gives you CC attacks +1S)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 18:27:26
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Nope, two different specials give no bonus either.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/10/20 18:28:10
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Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 19:03:44
Subject: Re:Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Screamin' Stormboy
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so what you are saying is that the Ork WB with Attack squig and PK do not get the +1 A bonus either?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 19:07:24
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Yes, he gets +1A from the squig, he can never claim the +1A from an addition CCW unless he has 2 PC's.
Edited due to forgetting to place an "s" after get.
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Quote: Gwar - What Inquisitor said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 19:54:04
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Furious Fire Dragon
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The mandiblaster works differently as well. So the SS Exarch gains +1A from the Mandiblaster but not an additional +1A for having a Shuriken Pistol and Scorpion's Claw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 19:59:12
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 20:23:18
Subject: Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Furious Fire Dragon
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Nurglitch wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_article
Thank you for your enlightenment. Was that aimed at something I wrote?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 22:03:56
Subject: Re:Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Squishy Squig
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Okay, first off thanks for the responses, second let me make certain that I understand: A Warboss (4A) with an Attack Squig (+1A) would get his 5 attacks at double strength and at init 1. The main reason this came up is that I've read somewhere (must've been on another board - not dakka) that a Striking Scorpion with the Claw, takes one attack at normal strength and initiative for the Mandiblasters, and the rest of his attacks at Init 1 with the Claw. Does this strike anyone else as incredibly fishy? Just trying to get a few outside opinions. Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/20 23:10:07
Subject: Re:Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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GrimmDakka wrote:Okay, first off thanks for the responses, second let me make certain that I understand:
A Warboss (4A) with an Attack Squig (+1A) would get his 5 attacks at double strength and at init 1.
The main reason this came up is that I've read somewhere (must've been on another board - not dakka) that a Striking Scorpion with the Claw, takes one attack at normal strength and initiative for the Mandiblasters, and the rest of his attacks at Init 1 with the Claw. Does this strike anyone else as incredibly fishy? Just trying to get a few outside opinions. Thanks
Nope, mandiblasters are just +1 attack, plain and simple, just like the squig. This rule about them is more than likely a hangover from the older codex where mandiblasters were a special attack taken at it's own unique initiative value.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/21 03:23:22
Subject: Re:Attack Suig/Mandiblasters
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Squishy Squig
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Hey, Thanks alot! That is how I thought it worked but I wasn't 100% sure.
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