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HQ:
total: 590

Lord of change - master of sorcery, breath of chaos, instrument - 295
Lord of change - master of sorcery, breath of chaos, instrument - 295

Elite:
total: 280

5 flamers - 175
3 flamers - 105


Troop:
total: 990

15 horrors - bolt of tzeentch, the changeling - 270
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch - 180
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch - 180
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch - 180
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch - 180

Fast:
total: 96

3 screamers - 48
3 screamers - 48

Heavy:
total: 540

Daemon price - tzeentch, breath of chaos, master of sorcery, bolt of tzeentch - 180
Daemon price - tzeentch, breath of chaos, master of sorcery, bolt of tzeentch - 180
Daemon price - tzeentch, breath of chaos, master of sorcery, bolt of tzeentch - 180

2,496 points

Breath of chaos: 13 per turn
bolt of tzeentch: 10 per turn
daemonic gaze: 2 per turn
warpfire: 165 per turn

this should be enough shooting to contend with even tau in a firefight, in CC though the army tends to rely on the 5 MC's

just charted up prices on ebay for everything except the 3 princes (which i have) ad it seems pretty good for a 2,500 point army.
£197 / $394 ish

master of sorc is wasted on the DPs, they already can shoot 2x

find the points for 1 more flamer and run 3x3

and with that many horrors I would prlly divy them out so I could have 6 units and iffy on the bolts on them. dunno where else to drop those pts though with your list, prlly just take some of them and make one LoC to Kairos

I likey though, I will have a smaller version of this to run.

forgot about the DP, was ment to give them gaze aswell, but ok, drop the master of sorc on those 3
30 points free.
drop the screamer units since i have plenty of anti tank
96 points saved.

gives me 124 points to play with.


im thinking adding another flamer so the units are 3x3 as you said. (35 gone)

and add 5 flamers.

HQ:

Lord of change - master of sorcery, breath of chaos, instrument
Lord of change - master of sorcery, breath of chaos, instrument

Elite:

3 flamers
3 flamers
3 flamers

Troop:

10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch, the changeling
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch
10 horrors - bolt of tzeentch

Heavy:

Daemon price - tzeentch, breath of chaos, bolt of tzeentch
Daemon price - tzeentch, breath of chaos, bolt of tzeentch
Daemon price - tzeentch, breath of chaos, bolt of tzeentch

more shooting, 6 scoring units throwing out 180 shots a turn and plenty of anti tank shooting, any better?

O Kairos, where art thou?

kairos if great, but not needed, i need as much shooting as possible.
the 2 LOC's will be fighting at some point, and i dont want kairos dragged into CC, as low as the chances are of him running away im not risking it.
against orks in CC he will be taking a large ammunt of wounds, so he will either die or run off.

40kenthusiast wrote:O Kairos, where art thou?

Yup wondering this myself at least the reasoning not to have him...I would at least try him out if I was running that list, he's only a few more points than your current LoCs.

Looking nice and shooty now, just watch out for assaults...I like the screamers though, they perform also as late game objective contesters with turbo boosting across the board if need be and can tie up things if all the tanks are down. And yes you have bolts in the horrors, though really, 1 shot at a tank or 30 at something else, that is your option there with each unit. I would prlly sac the bolts and pick up screamers with those pts. That is a whole nother unit which can do what those bolts should not be doing methinks.

ive just been thinking about that too, kind of a waste of 60 points.
im tempted to take out 10 horrors (saves 170) and remove al bolts from them (saves 60) thats 230 points to play with, might aswell go with kairos and some screamers.