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HI,

can someone tell me if the rules for the red terror are still avaible somewhere?

I know that there is no rules about it in the current codex but I know that it used to be Gw website.

Ty

L2

Google is my friend

http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/gaming/specialcharacters/redterror.htm

Ah!Thank you

So, I can use it in V5?

If yes, it means that the terror can move 9 inches + d6 (if it runs)? Not bad...

Its rules are not official for 5th ed.

40k? no. apoc? sounds like a great addtion

PanzerSmurf wrote:Its rules are not official for 5th ed.

But it's rules were updated to coincide with the latest tyranid codex so it should be fine for play.

Haha those look mean.

Is it like a smaller version of the apocalypse Trygon. (I think that's what its called - the gargantuam creature that can burrow underground.)

I love the rules about swallowing a model whole-yummy.
Imagine this

charging marneus calgar from 18" away - landing four out of five 4+ hits (possible) and then just gobbling him up epic win!

Not T5 or S5? sorry - no rolls to wound,no invulnerable saves, no armour of antilochus, no five PF attacks

Imagine the look on your oponents face!



He couldn't eat cassius though - (T6! what is that guy made of?)

Actually, Marneus would be immune, since his effective strength is 8 due to the Gauntlets of Ultramar.

Red Terror Rules wrote:Models with a Strength and/or Toughness value of 5 or more (including increases for Chaos marks, etc)

As for Cassius, he's mainly made of cybernetics; he's probably less organic that your average T-101 Terminator.

Ahh Good catch Sutekh.

I guess it's not that easy to eat someone wearing a powerfist (or two)

so are you saying that any model with a power fist/klaw or what not cannot be eaten whole????

You can still eat them. Unless they have strength five on their profile (like a Warboss...lucky Ghazkull), they can be eaten. The strength of the swallowees weapon has no bearing on whether they can be eaten.

then the statement above mine are wrong.....

red terror could eat marneus calgar..

I'm with rustyknight, a power fist doesn't modify a models strength, it is just a weapon used at double strength, thus the reason it works against a necron monolith.

lord_sutekh wrote:Actually, Marneus would be immune, since his effective strength is 8 due to the Gauntlets of Ultramar.

Red Terror Rules wrote:Models with a Strength and/or Toughness value of 5 or more (including increases for Chaos marks, etc)

As for Cassius, he's mainly made of cybernetics; he's probably less organic that your average T-101 Terminator.

Assuming that the above rule quote is from the Red Terror rules, notice it says "including increases for marks, etc." That means that the increase due to a powerfist DOES count, and that the Red Terror cannot eat a powerfist or powerklaw wielding model. Or a Space Marine with Furious Charge that charged it (for that round), or a marine on a Bike, or any other model who has a S or T of 5 or more, regardless of the source. The rule says nothing about using the profile.

And I tried the link above, and it says its not working.

Page 98 of the 2004 Chapter Approved Compendium confirms your point of view:

Q. A Space Marine with a power fist is hit four times by the Red Terror. His Strength and Toughness are 4, but the power fist makes him fight with a Strength of 8. Can the Terror make lunch of him? He may not swallow anyone with a Strength and/or Toughness of 5 or more.

A. Count Strength and Toughness after any modifications for Marks, power fists, frost blades etc, so the answer is no.

Also, if I remeber correctly (since the above link is not working) the rules are unchanged from the old codex.

Cruentus wrote:

lord_sutekh wrote:Actually, Marneus would be immune, since his effective strength is 8 due to the Gauntlets of Ultramar.

Red Terror Rules wrote:Models with a Strength and/or Toughness value of 5 or more (including increases for Chaos marks, etc)

As for Cassius, he's mainly made of cybernetics; he's probably less organic that your average T-101 Terminator.

Assuming that the above rule quote is from the Red Terror rules, notice it says "including increases for marks, etc." That means that the increase due to a powerfist DOES count, and that the Red Terror cannot eat a powerfist or powerklaw wielding model. Or a Space Marine with Furious Charge that charged it (for that round), or a marine on a Bike, or any other model who has a S or T of 5 or more, regardless of the source. The rule says nothing about using the profile.

And I tried the link above, and it says its not working.

it also says NOTHING about not being able to eat people with power weapon.....so i'd say that's wrong.

for instance, marneus calgar stregth is still 4, powerfist fist reflect his weapons stregth NOT his and thus can attack with a fist....

Sorry, but that's wrong. Please see the FAQ that I posted above. Also from page 42 of the Warhammer 40,000 5th edition rulebook:

A power fist is a power weapon, and also doubles the user’s Strength...

It is indeed his Strength, not the weapon's Strength. Close combat weapons generally don't have their own Strength.