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++HQ++
Captain w/ storm bolter and thunder hammer- 133
Command Squad w/ Company Champion, Apothecary, Standard Bearer w/ meltagun, two Veterans w/ storm bolter and power fist- 211
Razorback w/ extra armor- 55

++TROOPS++
Tactical Squad w/ meltagun and multimelta, Sergeant w/ storm bolter and power fist- 210
Rhino w/ extra armor, pintle-mounted storm bolter- 60

Tactical Squad w/ meltagun and multimelta, Sergeant w/ storm bolter and power fist- 210
Rhino w/ extra armor, pintle-mounted storm bolter- 60

Tactical Squad w/ meltagun and multimelta, Sergeant w/ storm bolter and power fist- 210
Rhino w/ extra armor, pintle-mounted storm bolter- 60

Tactical Squad w/ meltagun and multimelta, Sergeant w/ storm bolter and power fist- 210
Rhino w/ extra armor, pintle-mounted storm bolter- 60


++FAST ATTACK++
Land Speeder w/ multimelta and heavy flamer- 70

Land Speeder w/ multimelta and heavy flamer- 70

Land Speeder w/ multimelta and heavy flamer- 70


++HEAVY SUPPORT++
Vindicator w/ siege shield, extra armor- 140

Whirlwind- 85

Whirlwind- 85


Total: 1,999 points
Modelcount: 46 Marines, 11 vehicles
Scoring units: 4-8


My main worry, as usual, is HQ. I really don't like having 20% of my points invested in 6 marines, even if they do have Feel No Pain and a transport. What do you guys think about this list? Note that I'm not trying to have a super-competitive MURDER DEATH KILL list, just something that will be fun and do well against varied opponents.

Just a thought here...

at least 6 stormbolters - 60 pts
at least 6 extra armor 90 pts
plus 4 extra pintle storm bolters - 40 pts


If you can tolerate downgrading two PF to PW, you now have 210 points freed...

3 more speeders with melta/hvyflamer

or

tactical squad Melta, MM generic sgt in a rhino 35


I find that the extra armor is way overpriced for what it does as are the stormbolters.
Another tactical squad would do nicely... 5th scoring unit or 3 more ravaging landspeeders... harder to generate those KP out of your army.

How about another option?



6 Devastators with 4 Missile Launchers in Razorback 206

Man, it's a hard decision. This is an eternal debate, but I'm definitely in the pro-extra armor camp. The extra armor means that a glance from a standard weapon has a one in six chance of stopping my Rhino (you have to immobilize it) instead of a one in three, and a pen has a one in two instead of a four in six. It changes the glance from a "possible" to an "unlikely", and a pen from a "probable" to a coinflip.

As for the storm bolters, I'm considering swapping them for bolter-meltas or bolter-flamers on the Tactical Sergeants and making the Command Squad SB/powerfist marines generic meltagunners. That frees up 36 points, which could give my Razorback a big gun or perhaps be used elsewhere. Thoughts?