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I'm trying to use my old 4Ed list models:

HQ
Farseer with Fortune, Doom, SStones;

Elite
6 Fire Dragons in WS with TL Shuriken Cannon & SS;
6 Fire Dragons in WS with TL Shuriken Cannon & SS;

Troops
10 Dire Avengers, Ex, BL&2xAS in WS with TL Scatter Laser & SS;
10 Dire Avengers, Ex, BL&2xAS in WS with TL EML & SS;
3 Jetbikes with 1xShuriken Cannon;

Heavy Support
Fire Prism SStones, HF;
Fire Prism SStones, HF;

Total: 1497pts

What do you think?

EDIT: I forgot the Spirit Stones in all Wave Serpents.

Looks like a solid list.
However, in the 5th ed you might be forced to take on Space Marine units occupying a mission objective. They might get 4+ cover saves so that the Dragons are semi-effective. Moreover, Prims' pie plates often bounce off.

wuestenfux wrote:Looks like a solid list.
However, in the 5th ed you might be forced to take on Space Marine units occupying a mission objective. They might get 4+ cover saves so that the Dragons are semi-effective. Moreover, Prims' pie plates often bounce off.

What do you suggest?

The fire prisms might bounce of target, but you might also combine fire and then you're twinlinked... now you might not bounce of target.

You might want runes of warding to thwart other psyckers.

I'm totally unimpressed with a minimum sized jetbike squad. thats 76pts of nothing exciting, and so small and with 5th ed seeing through forests and stuff you will have a hard time doing the poke n shoot trick. suggest replacing with at least rangers if not pathfinders. You do want at least 3 troop units, so even if you make no changes they're worth something for being a troop unit.

Might also drop 1 prism for a dark reaper squad with a tempest launcher and/or drop a fire dragon squad for harlequins.

At 1500, you might just want to go on foot, just bring something to punk the random landraider.

Its not quite a solid list, but its workable. Also its better if you run brightlances on the serpents, but since the cost is insane and we're talking 1500pts maybe emls or shuriken cannons or maybe just run 2 shuriken cannons on each serpent. or maybe just keep both dragon units. Its hard to say, its a better bet if you know what your play enviroment is like and tool up for that.

HQ
Farseer with Fortune, Doom, SStones;

Why the fortune??? I don't see anyone that really is better with it... Also runes of whitness might be good for some cheap psychic defense.

Elite
6 Fire Dragons in WS with TL Shuriken Cannon;
6 Fire Dragons in WS with TL Shuriken Cannon;

Good, but Waveserpents that are simply transports should definately have spirit stones.

Troops
10 Dire Avengers, Ex, BL&2xAS in WS with TL Scatter Laser;
10 Dire Avengers, Ex, BL&2xAS in WS with TL EML;

Drop the weapons on the WSs. I doubt you will fire them. You need spirit stones.

3 Jetbikes with 1xShuriken Cannon;

Good units on some lists but not this list. All they are is an easy KP.

Heavy Support
Fire Prism SStones, HF;
Fire Prism SStones, HF;

These are good.

Total: 1497pts

What do you think?

You are Waves serpent spamming so you have to spend a a couple points to keep your wave serpents alive. It might be worth the points to take a fire dragon exarch and give them the free hvy flamer upgrade.

If you run into something like orks, at least you will have something to do with those fire dragons. you can get these points from dropping the weapons on the wave serpents.

I can;t run the exact points right now but I think something like this is a better list:

Farseer, Doom, SStones; Runes of witness
5 Fire Dragons + exarch with dragon breath in WS, spirit stones
5 Fire Dragons + exarch with dragon breath in WS, spirit stones

Troops
10 Dire Avengers, Ex, BL&2xAS in WS with spirit stones
10 Dire Avengers, Ex, BL&2xAS in WS with spirit stones

Heavy Support
Fire Prism SStones, HF
Fire Prism SStones, HF

Sorry! My mistake! All Wave Serpents have Spirit Stones!

I hope that Fortune will help Serpents to be more survival....but now that you mentioned it...my adversaries can always shoot at the one without Fortune...

Dropping the Farseer SS and Fortune will give some extra points. Maybe drop the jetbikes for 6 Rangers...but they seem a little out of place. Maybe a squad of 6 Jetbikes? I definitively need a 3rd troop squad.

I'm not a big fan of Heavy flamers... but with 2x6 Fire dragons, I'll give a try.