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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 01:36:49
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alright, I've been playing around with the idea of using a large squad of pathfinders as a troop selection since there's not much going against them. This inevitably led to blowing the idea completely out of proportion and when combined with late night/early morning sleepy-headed craziness, a Spam list.
What's that you say? Pathfinders alone do not an army make? They need a dedicated firebase to interact with? Unless coupled with a counter assault unit, they'll fold like a house of cards? I know all that, but this is a silly game of army men... let's be silly for just a minute and contemplate to beauty of the lint in our navels while considering the number of S:X, hits on 2+. AP:1 on 5+ shots these guys can dish out. Besides, I stick a pair of seers, a few guardians on bikes, and some wraithlords for heavies to help them out. I don't even remember why I put the seers on bikes...
I should be ashamed of myself, but I'll let you guys do the shaming for me. Enjoy tearing it to pieces!
HQ
Farseer
*Jetbike, Singing Spear, Runes of Warding, Runes of Witnessing, Spirit Stone, Doom, Fortune, Guide
208 points
Farseer
*Jetbike, Singing Spear, Runes of Warding, Runes of Witnessing, Spirit Stone, Doom, Fortune, Guide
208 points
Elites
Troops
(8) Pathfinders
192 points
(8) Pathfinders
192 points
(8) Pathfinders
192 points
(8) Pathfinders
192 points
(5) Guardian Jetbikes
*Shuriken Cannon, Warlock with Singing Spear and Embolden
173 points
(5) Guardian Jetbikes
*Shuriken Cannon, Warlock with Singing Spear and Embolden
173 points
Heavy Support
Wraithlord
*Brightlance and Starcannon
160 points
Wraithlord
*Brightlance and Starcannon
160 points
Total: 1850
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/11/05 01:44:30
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 07:17:07
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, beware of drop podding or deep striking units with flamers, or infiltrators outflanking the Pathfinders.
The army lacks a counter strike unit, like Harlies.
Two fully kitted out Farseers are a bit much. Drop one RoWard and both RoWitn, and give them one or two powers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 15:20:00
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
Belgium, political ass-end of the old continent
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Seems a bit light on the antitank side in my opinion... And beware flamers and heavy flamers!
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I can bend minds with my spoon...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 15:23:35
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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yeah, although they're hard hitting and stuff, you don't seem to have enough aliens to last the game...they might get crumped pretty good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 15:31:11
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Deadly Dire Avenger
Canada
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FYI, Pathfinders hit on 3+ now instead of 2+.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 17:24:36
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dorfdorf wrote:FYI, Pathfinders hit on 3+ now instead of 2+.
What caused that? My 5th says Snipers hit on 2+... at least I remember it saying that since I don't have my copy handy
Also:
Two fully kitted out Farseers are a bit much. Drop one RoWard and both RoWitn, and give them one or two powers.
I just read the farseer entry and you're right, only one RoWard is necessary, but why drop the Witnessing Runes? As far as powers go, two seers kicking doom and guiding the lords (and possibly the 'finders now if Snipers hit on 3+...  ) are like those chocolate peace signs in Ben & Jerry's Imagine Whirled Peace: a nice sweet suprise in creamy smoothness. Or something like that, anyway. And I threw Fortune in there to help the Lords and the guardians more than the 'finders, I guess I could drop it from one of the seers.
I don't expect anyone to take the list seriously, quite the contrary, and I understand the weaknesses inherent - there's NO elites at all! - but it's a one-trick pony. I contemplated using Vypers in place of Wraithlords, but figured they'd crumple pretty quick. If I dropped one unit of the pathfinders, I could pick up a unit of harlies, complete with kisses, a seer, and death jester for only 2 points less. That should satisfy the counter-assault crowd to some degree... even go as far as two sets of harlies.
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What harm can it do to find out? It's a question that left bruises down the centuries, even more than "It can't hurt if I only take one" and "It's all right if you only do it standing up." Terry Pratchett, Making Money
"Can a magician kill a man by magic?" Lord Wellington asked Strange. Strange frowned. He seemed to dislike the question. "I suppose a magician might," he admitted, "but a gentleman never could." Susanna Clarke Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
DA:70+S+G+M++B++I++Pw40k94-D+++A+++/mWD160R++T(m)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 18:51:27
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Sniper replaces the 2+ to hit with Rending now.
I have no idea why you've spent so many points on three powers for each Farseer so they can cast one a turn.
Brightlance/Starcannon should be Brightlance/Sword since you're using them as your only form of (pretty lowly) counterattack.
You don't need Runes of Witnessing if you've got the seers joined to the jetbikes with Embolden.
I like the idea, it just has no backup. No flamers, destructors, or Fire Prisms. No Fire Dragons for tanks. No Harlequins for counterattack. No Scorpions for dealing with pesky tanks/heavy weapons squads on the other side of the table. Don't get me wrong, you'll probably never lose your own objective marker, but you'll be unlikely to ever stop someone from taking two objectives in return. If you're basing the army entirely on an immobile troop base (sans jetbikes), you need to be really, really mobile elsewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/05 19:41:30
Subject: Speculating Pathfinder Spam - For Fun! 1850 List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Actually, The lords wouldn't be for counterattack at all, although they *could*, albeit poorly. They're the anti-heavy/anti-tank.
The Seers can use two different powers in a given turn with Spirit Stones, as long as it's not the same power. That's why they have what they do.
If they're attached to the guardian squads, they'll have Embolden which would allow them a re-roll for Psychic test. Witnessing allows a 3d/discard one regardless of whether they're in a unit or not. Box cars and snake eyes are pretty good odds to begin with and either buff is going to make those odds better.
Saving 35 points (dropping one RoWard and both RoWitness) by sticking them with the bikes is a good idea, allowing for the purchase of 2 additional Harlies in my counter-attack update, for a total of 9 quins with kisses, seer, and Death Jester. Two squads would be better, I know, but meh... all for fun!
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What harm can it do to find out? It's a question that left bruises down the centuries, even more than "It can't hurt if I only take one" and "It's all right if you only do it standing up." Terry Pratchett, Making Money
"Can a magician kill a man by magic?" Lord Wellington asked Strange. Strange frowned. He seemed to dislike the question. "I suppose a magician might," he admitted, "but a gentleman never could." Susanna Clarke Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
DA:70+S+G+M++B++I++Pw40k94-D+++A+++/mWD160R++T(m)DM+
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