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It's probably been discussed at some point, though I haven't seen it. Am I right in thinking CSM bikers get to use both their CCW and Bolt pistol in Close combat now in 5th ed? It seems in 4th and previous editions the point had been made that a biker needs to have one hand controlling the bike so didn't get the use of an additional CC weapon. I'm not seeing that anywhere in 5th.

Old news really. Everybody gets to use two weapons while mounted on a bike, even Dark Eldar thanks to their 5th edition FAQ.

It's not like riding a motorcycle into close combat made any sense before anyway.

Orkeosaurus wrote:It's not like riding a motorcycle into close combat made any sense before anyway.

Someone's childhood didn't include road rash, you missed out.

Drunkspleen wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:It's not like riding a motorcycle into close combat made any sense before anyway.

Someone's childhood didn't include road rash, you missed out.

Amen to that!

Good times there, good times!

I do appreciate the info, sorta silly how much of the 'old rules' stick with you til you decide to question them.

SM bikes have an auto pilot system... You know they call it the machine spirit.

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I ALWAYS get sucked into bike threads. - You don't need your hands to steer a bike! , you can steer by leaning, by pushing the seat with your butt and hips, you can steer by pushing harder on one footplate.

That said, I do much prefer to have (at least) one hand on the handlebar. Also I would never try to go no-handed off-road, I find it hard enough all ready.
While I dream of sticking twinlinked machine guns to my bike, I think close combat would be too hard (as orkeosaurus said) . There is NO WAY you could ride into a mob of twenty orks, and stay on your bike. - Maybe you could jump off and let the bike smash into them, probaly a waste of a bike though

If you really want to get into it, the fact that bikes only have a 6" assault move would seem to indicate that at some point they probably do get off the bike to bust heads.

remember that bikers roll for dangerous terrain not diificult terrain when entering cover... so they remain mounted when charging an enemy unit in cover.

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i challenge any nation to try and mimic the results of a full biker army lol