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Ok me and my friends are playing at home each 14 days and ive just started 1 month ago. The game we play works like we may use 2k points and therefor have 1 lord and 3 heroes. We only have to use 3 core units though.

Furthermore we play last man standing that means that you have to destroy your opponents army completely to win over him. For a long time the guy with the Chaos Warriors army have won and against me its especially the 2+ armor save that many of his units has that saves him.

So ive tryed some different combinations with my OK army but cant find a mix that even has a chance to follow up with his chaos army.

So does anyone have an idea that could help me get our games a little more exciting because atm. the team with him wins.

Play 6 turn games.

Its better if you know whan the game will end.

Need help with an OK army, list what models you have and we'll give you a great list.

For about 2k...

Lord with tenderiser
3 butchers, bangstick is gold
3 maneaters (here be the general) with rifles (for some shooting)
x2 3 man ogre bull units (give NO upgrades except muso)
x3 3 man ironguts units (butcher in each) and a muso in each
Trappers
Any points left take x2 man units of leadbelchers with a muso in each)

Rank them up.... Leadbelchers on flank, iron guts internal then bulls, then maneater and last ironguts unit.

Trappers do nothing but march block.

your units are all throwaways, who cares if anything flees... as loong as it sets up a charge for you.
The real key though is to 'buff' you units. With the deployment most units will be within range of at least 2 of the butchers.
Practice at home working out which units get which buffs in what order.

MSU ogres with 3 butchers and a lord with tenderiser is one of the toughest lists out there in WHFB.

Oh also get a rhonox rider... or 2 and buff him with stubborn. They are an absolute bugger to beat.

Ive seen more people than you talk about the Rhinox riders, they are not in my ogre book so were are the info about them?

Ok so this is the army ive come up with

2 maneaters + great weapon + heavy armor = 180

3 butcher + 2 bangstick = 440

Tyrant + tenderizer + heavy armor + spangleshard = 286

8 Bulls + extra weapons = 312

2 * 8 Ironguts = 768

http://ca.games-workshop.com/CommunityNew/HOH/Army%20Downloads/RhinoxCavalry.pdf

that link will take you to a page with the rules and points for the rhinox riders.

my pal has run just a thunderlord before and it took me FOREVER to kill it. they are expensive units, but they are worth it. you might only want to drop a thunderlord or just two decent ones in at 2k since they cost so many points.

Why last man standing? I can appreciate how it encourages models and players to engage,
but I imagine that certain armies will excel at that style of play over any other kind of army.

At least with victory points you have a chance of eking out a draw or outmaneuvering the
opponent.

I play Skaven so last man standing is not usually in my interest as the longer I go the great chance I have of mass panic or one of my special weapons getting the wrong kind of critical mass.

are the Rhinox rider from an older edition or?

and reason we play last man standing is simply that we think of it as the most fun

no. they're just an addy on thingy. i would use atleast one. i have seen them make people very sad. me included.

ok i will think about it, about the tenderizer, if i hit a guy with it will he have to take 1 armor save or one for each wound?

He takes an armour save, and if failed, it multiplies to D3.

Last man standing seems like fun in theory. But part of the balance of the game is to have it end at a certain point, you having collected all the points you can before hand.

Otherwise you allow armies that will out survive others or just kill stuff quicker to win the game.

You have to play it tactically and pick you're fights to win.

well if i can get the guy with the chaos army down to being an equal opponent then i can with OK make a pretty equal fight with all my m8s in Last Man standing and we are playing OK, Greenskins, Chaos Warriors, High Elves, Dark Elves, VC and Tomb Kings and all other than the chaos army can fight each other pretty equal.

Furthermore could anyone tell me if theres more official special kind of armys like the Ironskin tribe and by that where to find them.

Please format your posts more, thats quite a mess to decipher.

There are very few special lists left in warhammer - only the older 6th ed. books contain any, notably skaven and lizardmen have "back of the book lists".