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.. The rule book says you can basically attack buildings like they where vehicles. Not such a big deal I mean I don’t see people doing it a whole lot but we actually had some times where this raised some questions that we couldn’t agree on what should happen exactly.


My buddy was running daemons and his PB squad had to mis hap and got placed by his opponent. His opponent chose to place them on the 4th floor of a building so they would have to walk all the way back down. I suggested he destroy the building. The concept being they would now instantly be on the first floor and useful again for the battle. But we couldn’t decide exactly how this would work so he ended up walking them down to not cheat his opponent.

Would they disembark on the ground floor like a vehicle was wrecked? (Seems odd?)

Would they fall to the ground floor and have to take a terrain type check? Still having to move out of the building?

Then we had a game where one player was running Ravenwing with just bikes and terms. So his opponent placed his obj on the third floor so that the bikes couldn’t really claim it. I once again suggested putting his melta’s to the building but we really weren’t sure how to handle the outcome?

Does the obj die with the building?

Does it drop to the ground in the wreckage?

Does the wreckage become the obj?

Does the obj have to leave the building as a model inside said building would?

I don't have my book on me, but don't the rules say something to the effect of "replace the building terrain with ruins or a crater"?

It would seem to me then that it would depend on the terrain you had available to lie down in the building's place. You can't really walk downstairs in a crater, for example. But I'm really not too sure on this since I don't have my book, I'll go take a look later.

The problem is you are mixing the rules for a "Building" with the rules for Ruins.

A Building is an abstract, the existance of floors doesn't mean anything. No more so than if you say a landraider has three levels.... there is no impact on the game.

So even if you want to say there are 3 floors of a building, it doesn't change anything.
Also, you are not allowed to DS into a building.


Ruins, OTOH, do have floors, and you do have to go up/down them. But they can't be destroyed.
And when you DS into a ruin, you are placed on the ground floor.

Drkmorals wrote:My buddy was running daemons and his PB squad had to mis hap and got placed by his opponent. His opponent chose to place them on the 4th floor of a building so they would have to walk all the way back down. I suggested he destroy the building. The concept being they would now instantly be on the first floor and useful again for the battle. But we couldn’t decide exactly how this would work so he ended up walking them down to not cheat his opponent.

The first problem here is, if I'm not mistaken, units DS'ing into a building/ruins have to be placed on the ground floor. I had this happen in a game where I had the chance to place my opponents unit and was going to do the exact same thing. Then for some reason I remembered they have to be placed on the ground floor. Now, I suppose somebody will argue that since it's a mishap and per that they can be placed anywhere on the board. But, I choose to not be too big a dick and followed the rules for DS'ing since they were still in fact DS'ing. So instead I placed him as far away as possible with lots of difficult terrain to cross instead .

Ok I didn't know that you had to DS to the ground floor, however are you saying you can't DS onto the roof of a building?


Also why can't a building have floors? If I have complete building does it not count as a building in game terms only a ruin?


Also does this mean I can't put my models or my obj on top of a building? Like if I have a bunker and have models or the obj on top of the bunker and then destroy said bunker?

You need to read the rules covering Buildings and Ruins.

You are using terms incorrectly.

A Building is (essentially) a stationary transport vehicle.

If the building is impassable terrain, you can DS on top of it, if there is room. Ofc the models DS'ing will have to take a dangerous terrain test also.

If the building is actually able to house models, has removable parts and seperate floors, then I'm not precisely sure. DS'ing onto the ground floor in that case seems unreasonable and I'd probably say you'd be able to DS onto the roof. I'd like to hear some more feedback on this personally.

For Ruins, it's definate that you DS onto the Ground floor, regardless of the number or size of the floors it has.

So..primarily, we need to know the kind of 'building' being discussed in this scenario, to make sure what it falls under specifically.

I'd love to pull the nasty tactic of placing an opponents DS'ing unit on top of a piece of Impassable terrain, where they could not get down from it .

Rymafyr wrote:If the building is actually able to house models, has removable parts and seperate floors, then I'm not precisely sure.

There is absolutely no point in having buildings that can physically house models any more. You either treat the building as impassable, in which case models can't enter it (but can still DS onto the roof if it's flat enough) or you treat it as a stationary Transport vehicle, in which case there is no need to physically place models inside it.

If you're treating the building as one that can be entered, DS'ers will still only DS onto the roof, as specified in the DS rules. Ruins they go on the ground floor. Intact buildings they go on the roof.

Coredump is correct.