Chaos Havoc Plasma Cannons

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**From Java to Ceylon**

Just looked at the codex....Havocs cant be equipped with them? Doesnt seem right to me, if havocs cant use heavy plasmas then who can?
Cheers x

**Belphegor**

Chaos Dreadnoughts.
PCs are extremely rare for the traitor legions in the fluff.

**Nurglitch**

Also Obliterators.

**Rymafyr**

Given the way blast templates work now...I'm inclined to use anything but PC's.

**sourclams**

An ill-educated assessment. 5th ed makes blast templates far more effective than previous.

**From Java to Ceylon**

Thanks for the replys guys. Having some nice rules about old, unstable plasma cannons would have been a nice addition. I thought in the fluff, they were common and used in the horus heresy, just highly unstable.

**HoverBoy**

From Java to Ceylon wrote:Thanks for the replys guys. Having some nice rules about old, unstable plasma cannons would have been a nice addition. I thought in the fluff, they were common and used in the horus heresy, just highly unstable.

Which is why they've run out of them

**Regwon**

according to fluff all per-heresy plasma cannon were far to large and clumbersome to be even space marine-portable. since the heresy the technology has improved a bit to make them lighter so SM chapters can use them on foot. CSM still have to stick them on dreads to be able to use them though.

**Techboss**

The 2nd edition fluff was that the CSM plasma cannons were the heavy rapid fire varity. They shot a smaller blast template, but rolled a sustained fire dice for the number of shots. A jam ment the thing blew up, yet you had a chance to get off three shots.

The fluff behind the imperial ones was that they were more stable, yet didn't rapid fire.