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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 04:02:48
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Regular Dakkanaut
Hillsboro, Oregon
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On page 97 of the Ork codex, it states that if you have a warboss you may take a nobz unit as a troop choice.
My question is if I have two Warbosses can I bring two Nob troop choices.
The same question can apply to the big mek as well.
After all if I bring a warboss and a big mek, I could bring a Dread and a Nob unit as troop choices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 04:21:20
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Correct on all points.
If you take two bosses( though I feel that would be kind of meh) you can take two mobz of Nobz as troops.
Also,if you take a Boss & a Big Mek as HQ's then you may take a Nob mob and a deffdread as troops.
And of course the same would go for 2 Big Mekz = 2 deffdreads for troops.
Just make sure you arm the deffdreads with 4 ccw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 05:54:43
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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you should be careful about taking 2 meks for 2 deff dreads or 2 warbosses for 2 nob units, while most people allow it I know some who are quite positive that these allowances don't double up.
If you are playing in a tourny I would say check with the TO to be safe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 08:34:35
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Springhurst, VIC, Australia
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Plus both units can be expensive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 09:52:53
Subject: Re:Nobz as Troops
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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double biker warboss+double scoring biker nobz. pretty standard stuff imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 10:04:35
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
Olympia, Waaaghshinton
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Drunkspleen wrote:you should be careful about taking 2 meks for 2 deff dreads or 2 warbosses for 2 nob units, while most people allow it I know some who are quite positive that these allowances don't double up.
If you are playing in a tourny I would say check with the TO to be safe.
I'd say the rules show that it can double up. Each Boss unlocks one as a troop choice.
Why anyone would want to do that in a list other then one with Warbiker Nobs, I'd have no clue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 11:50:44
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Like I say, most people allow it, but I know people who would argue to the grave that each warboss only allows a single nob unit in total, which is to say, the first warboss allows 1 nob squad as troops, the second warboss allows 1 nob squad as troops, you are now allowed 1 nob squad as troops.
I don't really have an opinion either way on it but I can see why you might think along the less popular line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/01 22:23:24
Subject: Re:Nobz as Troops
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Sneaky Kommando
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2 war bosses 20 nobs (with pain boys) rouughly 9 power klaws (big choopas, some shoots skorchas, waaagh banners, cybork bodies/eavy armor) 2 Battle wagons (one dedicated one with a kill kannon) a deff dread a looted wagon and roughly 8 burna boys ( 3 meks with rokkit launchas) roughly 2k points
if you inexperienced they are hit and miss if your a good player they can roll anything.
there is no debate about wether or not "the allowances double up" its quite simple you got A warboss you can take A nob mob as a troop choice. 2 war bosses 2 nobs squads as troops. Example: if you look at the Big mek army you will see 2 big meks and 2 deff dreads taken as troop choices.
and yes you can have a nob squad and a deff dread as a troop choice if you have a big mek and a warboss. Although I dont really see any advantage now of having a deff dread as a troop choice, they cant score and the only benefit would to deploy one early in dawn of war.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 00:12:15
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Springhurst, VIC, Australia
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The only befinit for taking deff dreads as troops is to free up heavy support slots for killa kanz or more dreads ^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 00:44:51
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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Squig_herder wrote:The only befinit for taking deff dreads as troops is to free up heavy support slots for killa kanz or more dreads ^^
You could also, if so inclined, drop a dredd on the table in Dawn of War deployment although 29 boyz with a nob and a powerklaw would be preferable. Still, if you wanted to be a cute hoor you could drop two dredds in DoW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 01:47:47
Subject: Re:Nobz as Troops
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Grovelin' Grot
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I still dont understand how it would work fluff wise, isn't there supposed to be only one warboss? are they brothers? allies? lovers :S? i mean i wouldn't know how you would explain it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 02:23:33
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Angry Chaos Agitator
Rochester, New York
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Lovers is the obvious answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 03:17:57
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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yup, they drop spores together.
Ir's perfectly possible to have 2 extremely strong and tactically minded orks in a waaagh, it's just that one would find a way to make sure he is always stronger than the other, and to remind everyone that he's in charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 09:56:35
Subject: Nobz as Troops
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Springhurst, VIC, Australia
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they can, much like gork and mork, or one who takes charges of bikes and fast stuff and the other mega armoured nobs and foot sloggs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/03 10:07:02
Subject: Re:Nobz as Troops
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Stormin' Stompa
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Vengeance wrote:I still dont understand how it would work fluff wise, isn't there supposed to be only one warboss? are they brothers? allies? lovers :S? i mean i wouldn't know how you would explain it.
Gork and Mork, nuff said.
EDIT. Gark, beaten by Squigherder.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/03 23:04:41
Subject: Re:Nobz as Troops
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Sneaky Kommando
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A tribe consists of many war Bands and thus many War Bosses but only one Warlord. A tribe is simply all of the orks in a vicinity Thus you can have say a tribe of Death Skulls/Speed freaks/Bad moons and each may or may not have its own warband (a warband can have multiple clans so its fluffly to have say a Bad moon army with snake bites led by a Death skull war boss, although the warboss would most likely be a bad moon or a snake bite in this case.) A war boss usually leads around a hundred or so boys so its safe to say for every hundred boys in a tribe there is one war boss and a tribe with a thousnad boys would have ten war bosses all waiting for their turn to become warlord. (gazzy isnt the only warlord just the most popular)
As far as orks belonging to different clans that usually fight with eachother, the rallying cry of the waaagh wil unite the clans and previous rivals will fight along side one another, because in the end an Ork is an Ork.
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"For the emperor!" "E' aint listenin!" *squish* (my fav blood and thunder quote)
BUT NOBS are NO GOOD at CC "ork town grot"
-perhaps the single dumbest comment I have ever heard-
Boss Zagstruck and Her-ORKick intervention, anything you can do we can do better |
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