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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 04:31:22
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Okay, I will start by saying that I am actually quite new to 40k, and I had just gotten a pretty big Necron army last weekend (was just playing with a starter kit until I got the money, lol), and I managed to play a couple rounds against my friends (who are about equally as new to 40k) and did some winning...but, there are a few rules that I wanted clarified so as to avoid some of the unavoidable arguments we get into.
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Tomb Spiders
I was playing a game a couple nights ago, and I kept using my tomb spiders' ability (Artificier) to create Scarab Swarms. By the end of the game, I had about 6 swarms created (which never saw combat), but my friend later said that those scarabs (to-be created) had to be included in the army point count. Is this true? Do you have to pay points for the (not even created by game start) swarms that may or may not be created in the game?
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Wraiths (and Flayed Ones as well)
Why do they have a BS score, considering they are melee only and cannot get weapons?
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Monolith
Okay, this is the most important question, because I have not used my monolith in battle yet. I Get the rules about the particle whip and transporting, but I have a question about the turrets. The rule in the book says "The Flux Arc Projectiles will fire D6 shots at every enemy unit with a model within 12" of the Monolith"
Does that mean:
-I roll a D6 at the start of the shooting phase, then fire that many shots at EVERY unit(say 4 shots per unit [dice roll for number]?
-Roll a D6 for EACH unit, then fire based on that (say 5 shots on 1 unit, then 1 on the other [dice rolls for numbers])?
-Roll a D6, then get that many shots ALL TURN (as in only 4 attacks, then I have to pick how many for each unit out of my 4)?
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Monolith (again)
Okay, another rule, which I am not sure about AT ALL, but I had heard somewhere, something about being able to resurrect dead necrons through the monolith's portal?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/12/02 04:31:39
7000 pts (Not including Gauss Pylon Network)
Alpharius wrote:Meltdown at the Nuclear Over-reactor!
Run! Run! RUN!
Unit1126PLL wrote:Everything is a gunline. Khorne berzerkers have pistols? Gunline unit. Tanks can't assault? They're all, every last one, a gunline. Planes? Gunline. Motorcycles? Mobile gunline. Mono-Khorne daemons? Bloodthirster has shooting attack. Gunline. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 04:50:45
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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I don't have my necron dex available atm so I'm working from memory and can't give precise quotes but I'm pretty confident about these.
1. No, unless it says you have to pay for them you don't in this sort of situation, so with Tomb Spiders you don't pay for them as they are created mid battle. If memory serves these ones join the spider's unit so they aren't worth extra kill points either.
2. Often an army will have a base statline that is modified to give the stats of more elite units and they will end up with relatively useless stats, It may also just be wanting to cover all bases, better that the wraiths have a BS they can't use than a new model comes along with a rule that lets wraith's shoot but they don't have a BS.
3. I'm fairly confident that you roll a fresh D6 per unit, but no guarantees, this is the one I'm least sure of. It's definitely not the third option though.
4. This relates to the WBB roll which I assume you understand, basically, after a unit has made it's WBB rolls if some necrons are still un-repaired you can teleport that unit through the monolith portal in the movement phase and the necrons that are still down get to make a second WBB roll at that time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 11:32:04
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Just to agree with what Drunkspleen said. And yes, it's roll a d6 for each unit.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 20:10:10
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Irked Necron Immortal
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okay then, thanks for the info...
Also, the D6 for every unit shall be a very fun thing to try out next game...
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7000 pts (Not including Gauss Pylon Network)
Alpharius wrote:Meltdown at the Nuclear Over-reactor!
Run! Run! RUN!
Unit1126PLL wrote:Everything is a gunline. Khorne berzerkers have pistols? Gunline unit. Tanks can't assault? They're all, every last one, a gunline. Planes? Gunline. Motorcycles? Mobile gunline. Mono-Khorne daemons? Bloodthirster has shooting attack. Gunline. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/02 23:52:10
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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The d6 for every unit is fun, more so if you get a couple of them into the midst of an IG gunline. Unfortunately, you can't use the gauss arc the round you deepstrike with the monolith anymore. It used to be the answer to hordes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/03 14:50:15
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Also, bear in mind that anything you shoot at with the Gauss Arcs must be a legal target. Can't shoot at it if it's out of LOS, locked in hth, etc.
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Don "MONDO"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 16:36:22
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Irked Necron Immortal
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oh of course, I know the limitations of firing with regards to los and hth.
Now I can't wait until Sunday (the next game I will be playing with my friends)
That said, all of my questions seem to be answered with no arguments, so I guess this thread is over.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/12/04 16:37:36
7000 pts (Not including Gauss Pylon Network)
Alpharius wrote:Meltdown at the Nuclear Over-reactor!
Run! Run! RUN!
Unit1126PLL wrote:Everything is a gunline. Khorne berzerkers have pistols? Gunline unit. Tanks can't assault? They're all, every last one, a gunline. Planes? Gunline. Motorcycles? Mobile gunline. Mono-Khorne daemons? Bloodthirster has shooting attack. Gunline. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/04 16:38:21
Subject: Few Necron Rules that I need clarified
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Just saying, since I still run into Necron players who insist that they can target every unit within 12", regardless of those other items.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
Northern VA/Southern MD |
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