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I played a game the other day in which I took all infantry and a Devout. The game was long, drawn-out, and I eventually lost. In discussing what I could have done better, my opponent seemed to keep going back to the Reclaimer.

To me, this guy is a low-armour meat sack that gives focus to jacks in a list with combined jacks and infantry - handy to have around, in that regard. He seemed to suggest I use him for the magic attack, to pick off unit leaders and soften big targets so things like my knights exemplar could guarantee the finishing blow [they tend to leave warbeasts alive with a few hit points on them, much to my dismay].

Again, looking at it, unless he's able to use soul tokens to boost his attack and damage rolls [which it doesn't seem like he's able to], a lone POW 12 attack seems unlikely to really do reliable damage to much of anything, and anything DEF 14 or higher's going to be pretty hard to hit anyway. Not to mention that, if unable to boost, he'll be sitting on tons of soul tokens without any way to use them.

What was your opponent's list and your warcaster?

A Reclaimer is extremely squishy and unable to boost his magic attacks. He's much
cheaper than Aiyana and Holt, but they're probably the better option.

My opponent was playing circle, using epic kaya.

And that's what really threw me - I mean I guess if the ability landed it would be likely to do damage [POW 12 against relatively low ARM models] but the odds of hitting seem pretty low, when even his heavy warbeasts can easily get DEF 15 or higher.

Its unlikely that the reclaimer would belong in your list. But he might work anyways.

I ran the following list the other day. I did run the reclaimer, and I was able to grab souls and in at least one game I gave a focus to the redeemer. Another game he shot a tharn ravenger (killing blow too)

I don't know if he was any good, but was better than my exemplar seneschal that day. In retrospect, I could have tossed in a sunburst catapult & crew, longer range, almost as accurate, but a lot more damage.

Kreos
Redeemer Light War Jack
10 Deliverers
9 Zealots + Monolith Bearer
Reclaimer
Exemplar Seneschal
Vilmon
Piper of Ord
5 Choir
Eiryss
Alten Ashley

Sazzle: His list had zero jacks.
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He said he took a devout. That's a warjack.

However in thinking about it, taking a reclaimer for feeding a single warjack one focus is bad. I took him to snipe stuff, but you'll notice my list had a couple snipers, alten, eiryss, (light warjack) I only have vilmon and the seneschal to keep people afraid of engaging me in mellee.

I wonder what the original poster took for infantry, and what warcaster as well.

The Reclaimer is generally for jack based armies not led by the High Reclaimer, or against Cryx with any Menoth army.

Of his three powers Communion is by far the most useful as it can use more than one soul token a turn.

Note that a Reclaimer can by his presence contest souls that a Cryxian model might reap. This nuisance ability is very useful. idont play Hordes and dont know the factions, if a Hordes opponent has a faction that uses soul tokens from dead Menites they kill the Reclaimer is again useful.

Also note that unlike most Soul token users there is no rule by which soul token as replaced by focus points and discarded, because the Reclaimer uses them himself. This means the Reclainmers soul tokens stack over turns, so Spirit Shield can be cast in 'dry' turns or a large number of soul tokens saved up for a powerful Communion.

The Reclaimer is hard to use but can be powerful, not a bad investment for 16pts if the points are spare. Paying 2pts more for a Sunburst is tempting, but most options are not in his points range and it is not too unlikely you could have 16pts left over after building your list, but not enough for a Seneschal or Monolith.

I think Cryx is the only one to play with souls other than Menoth. With Kreos the sunburst cannon has the potential to dish out sick damage and reliably, at least for a turn. However the reclaimer is more mobile and accurate, and more mobile... did I mention more mobile?

I'll probably look into Lady Ayiana and Holt, everyone's using them that can take them, I've never really been a huge fan of mercs... not until recently.

Orlanth: Communion uses one soul token but can feed all eligible warjacks.

Sazzlefrats wrote:He said he took a devout. That's a warjack.

Reading is Fundamental.

My bad.

no worries, not like one devout makes much difference, if you don't like jacks, just take gorman, ditch the choir and save another 50+ pts, get yourself a reclaimer, and a heirophant, and more infantry. Gorman protects your warcaster, and the models added to your list makes you more aggresive :-)

malfred wrote:

Sazzlefrats wrote:He said he took a devout. That's a warjack.

Reading is Fundamental.

My bad.

Gorman + Aiyana and Holt = points of a Devout I think, with
some leftover.

Sazzlefrats wrote:I think Cryx is the only one to play with souls other than Menoth.

Skorne also plays with souls, but only friendly models give them souls.

Protectorate is mostly friendly Protectorate models, except the Testament who claims all
Protectorate models.

Protectorate is mostly friendly Protectorate models, except the Testament who claims all
Protectorate models.

Which is why you avoid playing the High Reclaimer in a 750 environment against other
possible Protectorate players. They bring the Omegus, and you're hosed.

I had a knight-themed army, using 3 units of exemplar, some errants, the devout for protection, Rhoven, Gravus, 2 Seneschals, 2 paladins with vilmon, piper and epic kreoss.