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Mek
+kff

Mek (with lootas)
+bosspole
+kombi-skorcha

12 Lootas

3*30 Shoota Boyz
+3 rokkits
+Nob
+bosspole
+pk

10 Shoota Boyz
+Nob
bossepole
+big choppa

3*3 Killer Kanz
+2 big shoota
+1 skorcha

1500 pts

20 StormBoyz
+Nob
+bosspole
+pk

+10 more Shoota Boyz and rokkit for ten strong unit. Or deffkopta maybe. Or something else with your advice.

1850 pts

I usualy play vs MEQ, IG, mech Sisters, Tyranids, Genesteeler Cult, Tau, but want to make allcomers list.

As always take anything I say with a grain of salt, but he are my quibbles:

1. Why the second Mek? He doesn't have anything super special about him other than being way cheap at this point. Unless you plan to have him follow behind the Kans to repair any weapon destroyed results (remember in squadrons an immobilized result = destroyed) which might be worth considering.

2. Remove 10 boyz from one of your 30 boyz shoota units and move them to the 10 boy unit to have two units of 20 boyz instead. A 10 boy unit not in a Trukk is just asking for a couple wounds and a morale check to get the heck out of dodge. Additionally I would look for the points to upgrade that big choppa to another power klaw. The hidden power klaw on the nob is one of the most powerful weapons in the Ork arsenal.

3. Skorchas on kans are a tremendous waste of that fabulous BS of 3 that the Kans have. Honestly I would highly consider getting some KMBs or Rokkits on those Kans to make use of that enhanced BS.

4. I love Stormboyz. Mine always have terrible rokkit packs (I always roll a 1 for the movement, true story ), but I continue to use them until I figure them out and I break my rokkit pack die curse. All that aside, I find a mob of 20 to be a bit much. Only because Stormboyz have a huge bullseye on them. They are too fast and too threatening to let live so to survive they have to hug behind cover and behind other units to keep that 4+ cover save until it is time to jump past and get to kumpin. Personally I find 12-15 to be a better number that is easier to hide behind cover, but your tables make allow for full mobs of 20 boyz to stay out of sight or behind cover.

Why not use a full Burna for your second Big Mek? He has that option. Power Weapon in CC

to Vagrant Benthos:
1 I take second mek to boost poor leadership of lootas . My oponents like to shoot them or make them run off table. Metagame, you know...
2 10 strong unit must score my objective through game.
3 Agreed. But there are too few points to spend on KMB or rokkit in this race to take more bodies.
4 I love stormboys too but can't use them properly. They allways get killed after first charge i make.


to Nofasse 'Eadhunta:
He has his own purpouse to make lootas live. Another 15 points is a waste (i think so).


Thank you.

Kugel wrote:to Vagrant Benthos:
1 I take second mek to boost poor leadership of lootas . My oponents like to shoot them or make them run off table. Metagame, you know...
2 10 strong unit must score my objective through game.
3 Agreed. But there are too few points to spend on KMB or rokkit in this race to take more bodies.
4 I love stormboys too but can't use them properly. They allways get killed after first charge i make.


to Nofasse 'Eadhunta:
He has his own purpouse to make lootas live. Another 15 points is a waste (i think so).


Thank you.

1. Why not just take more lootas? They are still subject to 'Mob Rule' so if they have over 11 members in the squad then they are fearless. If you take a maximum squad of 15 then its hard to kill enough to make them run.

2. A 10 boy mob will not keep on an objective. its far to easy to make them run with shooting. They need to be much bigger and probably with some rokkits or big shootas. they need to be at least 20 boyz strong.

3. You could free up points if you dropped that useless second Big Mek.

4. Orks always die on the counter charge, its a fact of life. What you need to do is make sure you have enough threatening stuff in your second wave. Remember, if you lose your storm boyz but win the game its good. Dont think that everything needs to survive every battle.

appart from that random 10 boy strong mob, and that big mek, its a good list.

to Regwon:
1) Yes, you're right. I can just take out this mek and take 3 more lootas.
2) Greed (жадность on russian). I can't allow myself to leave 180 (20boyz+nob+rokkits) points just to hold my own objective.

Thanks!