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As money as no obeject, what do you think is the best Daemon list???

I'm thinking it's something like:

Fateweaver
2 X 8 blood crushers
14 plague bearers icon
10 plague bearers
3 X Soul grinder phelem

Not enough troops

Fateweaver 333
6 bloodcrushers 240
6 bloodcrushers 240
11 plaguebearers w/ icon 190
11 plaguebearers w/ icon 190
10 plaguebearers w/ icon 175
Soul Grinder w/ Phlegm 160
Soul Grinder w/ Phlegm 160
Soul Grinder w/ Phlegm 160



better. You need icons, or you will never fit 3 grinders (biggest unit in the game) and 12 crushers (dread bases) on the table without serious mishaps, I promise. You don't need 8 crushers however, show me a unit that can survive 36 WS5 S6 I5 power weapon attacks and I'll show you a seer council. They'll just pile their shots onto the farseer and ID him though.

Plagues gtg in cover on objectives, soul grinders fence in/melee tanks and spit on hordes, crushers make base with everything they can. Fateweaver pew pews tanks mostly, avoids CC, and keeps either the plagues or crushers alive, depending on who gets shot at.

good game to you sir. mech will still laugh at you pretty hard, but anything you can grab ahold of dies instantly. Land Raider spam will also not care about your list.

You might want to consider freeing up some points for Fury of Khorne and/or Instruments of Chaos for your Bloodcrushers for complex unit wound allocation shenanigans.

Fateweaver
2 units of 6 crusher
5 units of 7 plauges
3 grinders phlegm and tongue

II find the versatility on the grinder nescessary.

Skulltaker... Taking skulls for The Blood God since Nurghal was a gran pappy of yore.

G

Fury and instruments is actually a really good call.

I've been playing with a single squad of 8. Usually a large majority gets killed in shooting but about 3 tends to make it to combat and clean house.

I'm sure 12 is better than 8 but I do wonder is only six can actually not get shot to death before they get there.

The multi wound thing may very well be that difference though

You need three troops to win objective based games on a consistent basis. Plague Bearers are rock hard but a bad scatter can cost you a game if you only play with two troops total.

G

The Defenestrator wrote:Fateweaver 333
6 bloodcrushers 240
6 bloodcrushers 240
11 plaguebearers w/ icon 190
11 plaguebearers w/ icon 190
10 plaguebearers w/ icon 175
Soul Grinder w/ Phlegm 160
Soul Grinder w/ Phlegm 160
Soul Grinder w/ Phlegm 160



better. You need icons, or you will never fit 3 grinders (biggest unit in the game) and 12 crushers (dread bases) on the table without serious mishaps, I promise. You don't need 8 crushers however, show me a unit that can survive 36 WS5 S6 I5 power weapon attacks and I'll show you a seer council. They'll just pile their shots onto the farseer and ID him though.

Plagues gtg in cover on objectives, soul grinders fence in/melee tanks and spit on hordes, crushers make base with everything they can. Fateweaver pew pews tanks mostly, avoids CC, and keeps either the plagues or crushers alive, depending on who gets shot at.

good game to you sir. mech will still laugh at you pretty hard, but anything you can grab ahold of dies instantly. Land Raider spam will also not care about your list.

This is a solid "powergamers" list. One of the only units from the Daemons Codex that drivers fear across the whole table top is a unit of crushers. You don't have to copy this exact but Defen hits all the needs of an army list. Very well built.