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Hi!

I am planning on starting an Eldar army and I would want to do something special.

I was thinking about taking WHFB High Elf archers and WH40K Eldar Guardians or Dire Avengers and make something with them for starting...

High Elves Archers come in boxes of 16 models, so I was thinking about buying two of them and then three boxes of 10 Guardians or Dire Avengers so I could make 60 models of two different kinds. I was thinking exactly about this two kind of minis:

- Model A: Archer Legs, Dire Avenger Torso (Chest? Body? Is this the right name? Sorry about my bad English), Archer Arms, and I need to decide about heads and weapons.

- Model B: Dire Avenger Legs, Archers Torso, Dire Avengers Arms, and I need to decide about heads and weapons.

I am talking about Dire Avengers bodies here because I know their legs come with some kind of tunic in the back, and this should fit better with the archer torso, that I think is some kind of tunic too.

As you can see, I haven't decide about heads and weapons. I was thinking about putting them some kind of CC weapon+Pistol to 30 of them, and some kind of Eldar Shooting weapon to the other 30. I suppose the obvious choice would be to use the Avengers Shuriken Catapults for 30 of them, but I was hoping to find some way of giving them some kind of "generic Eldar gun" and to the other 30, some kind of "Generic Eldar CC weapons". The idea of doing this is that I could use this models later to "Count As..." a lot of different units.

I am always changing my lists, and I don't like metal models, so I don't really want to buy Harlies, Dragons, Scorpions, Banshees, Wraith Guard or any other metal model that I can avoid. Doing my army this way (count as), I hope I would have flexibility and nice models.

So my main problem is that I don't know what to do about the heads and the weapons. GW don't sell separate sprues anymore, so I don't know how can I find heads, Guns and/or CC weapons without spending a crazy amount of money. Same about heads. I could use the Dire Avengers heads, and maybe convert them in some way (taking out the hairy part and adding something different in the top), but I think the Archer heads wouldn't look really Eldar...

Other different approach I was thinking is using CC guardians, as I think they come with CC and pistol. The problem here is that Dire Avengers legs seems to fit really good with Archer tunics and guardians would not.

Maybe if I use other base models for the conversions I would have less problems... I was thinking about using some plastic elves with spear, so I would have spears for the CC units, and Shuriken Catapults for the shooty ones. If this guys would come with heads with no helmet, then that would be perfect, of course. But I love the archer robes so much, and I'm not really sure about this...

So what do you think about this? Do you have any advice?
Have you ever try this conversion? I think is pretty usual, isn't it?
Do you have any ideas about what could I do with heads and weapons?
Any suggestions of different models to use?
Do you know any site that sells heads and/or weapons separately? Maybe I could use some non-GW pieces for Generic Eldar weapons....

Thank U very much!

ooh that sounds awesome! wouldn't be that hard in theory and the kneeling archers would look fantastic with shurkien catapults!

i would simply change the heads and add weapons and call them exodites

sphynx wrote:ooh that sounds awesome! wouldn't be that hard in theory and the kneeling archers would look fantastic with shurkien catapults!

Yeah, that's what I tought

sphynx wrote:i would simply change the heads and add weapons and call them exodites

Any suggestions on how to do this?

well, heres something i just threw together.

if the colours were right, you could have a cool looking army!

Hey it looks cool!

But I still have doubts about heads and Weapons...

Any advice?

I've only put High Elf and guardian bits together (made some warlocks out of them), and there are a couple of issues with this matchup.

Elf parts are a flat join between torso/legs and arms, while the eldar parts are a ball-socket type joint between torso and legs and arms.

You can either cut the ball parts flat or I found it easier to drill sockets in the legs to fit the torsos. The arms for the warlocks were arms from the HE sprue (sword arm) combined with a hand off a storm guardian (shuriken catapult) which was pinned to the arm.

This is really helpful advice. Thank you, chromedog!

I have been thinking and I would use Dire Avengers, HE Archers, and Storm Guardians (at least).

My initial idea is using this combinations:

1. Archer Legs / DA Torsos / Storm Guardians Heads / DA A Weapons / Probably DA arms (For simpler conversions)
- This models should be used as "count as" Guardians and DA

2. DA Legs / Archer Torsos / DA Heads / Storm Guardians Arms and Weapons
- This models should be used as "count as" Banshees, Scorpions, Harlequins, Storm Guardians and probably Warlocks

This combinations leaves free:
- Storm Guardians Legs
- Storm Guardians Torsos
- Archer Arms
- Archer Heads

So if I succeed finding some kind of "generic eldar heavy rifle" I could make some model to "count as" Dragons, Reapers and Wraithguard if I need to make a shooting list.

I don't really like this last combination, so maybe I would change the elements to have better looking models.

Any suggestions about how could I find some "generic eldar heavy rifle"? Do you think I could use this "count as" army in a Tournament?

Thank you all very much!

There is no "generic eldar heavy rifle" - at least, not separate from it's firer and Not from GW. The eldar have always had the iconic shuriken catapult, and had access to "lascannons" and "missile launchers" and "melta guns" back in RT as well.

You could try a few other miniature producers (hasslefree et al) to see what they had in SF weapons, though.

Thank you again for the reply chromedog!

Yeah, I know there is nothing like any generic eldar rifle, maybe I have expressed myself wrong, sorry.

I mean, it would be really good to find a way to make some kind of rifle that could be used as a big gun with "count as" rules in mind. This way, I could use the models to count as Fire Dragons, Reapers, and maybe Wraithguard, and some other models I', forgetting.

I'm afraid that if I use other miniature producers pieces, I could not use the army in some tournaments, but I would take a look.

So what do you think, using the models explained in my last post, would I be able to use them in tournaments?

That would depend upon your tournament organisers, really. I know here (in australia) no-one enforced (outside of GW run events) the "must be xx% GW models" 'policy'.

For a 'generic' sttled eldar weapon, I'd probably look at a selection of oval beads from a haberdashery (fabric shop) to get something that shows similarities to the D-cannon and wraith cannon and most other eldar designs.

Thank you again for the reply

Yeah, I should search one way of making Eldar weapons, but I really hoped I could find some GW weapons that could serve. I was thinking on Vehicles weapons, but it's not probably a good idea.

I would keep thinking and searching, thank you very much!

Ive been toying with the mix of high elf and eldar and this is what I made out of a guardian, high elf archer legs and farseer helm.


PS. I green stuffed the torso to the leggings which you can kind of see (Im not the best with that yet.) And the model contains a number of parts from different models.

Farseer Helm
Guardian chest (With backpack shaved off)
Bretoian Cloak (Don't know which)
Dark Eldar Splinter Pistol (Needed a pistol)
Both arms are Wood Elf Glade Guard parts (Sorry the pic cuts off the sword)
High Elf Archer Leggings
Guardian Feet
Chaos Bolter (Under one of the feet cause I noticed it was in the air kind of randomly)

It looks cool!

But I cannot afford to buy so many different boxes...

I have been thinking (again) and I have find a way of making the "generic big eldar guns". I'm thinking on using the 6 pieces that goes on the top of the Wave Serpent.

I think with some wires and pieces they could look really good.

Yeah, my serpents would look a lot more as Falcons, but I really like it that way.

What do you think?