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Bikes have the relentless rule, does this mean that a Master of the Forge on a bike with a conversion beamer (Heavy 1) can move and fire? Or only the bike mounted weapons can move and fire to full effect? ie boltguns

you are correct in believing a master of the forge on bike with conversion beamer can move and fire it.

So the old rule of 'only bike mounted weapons are relentless' from previous editions did not continue over to this edition?

I believe I read somewhere that a bike can shoot one weapon per rider, does that mean that the ravenwing master on bike can only shoot his plasma cannon OR his storm bolter? If so, it seems kind of pointless that he has both.

Also, Does this mean that theoretically you can have a Wolf Guard Battle Leader on a bike with a relentless plasma cannon or multimelta and a frostblade?


Last question, do bikers get +1A for having a bp and ccw?

There are no different rules for "bike mounted" weapons in 5th edition, so in effect that term means nothing in the rules.

A model on a bike has the relentless special rule and that allows him to count as stationary when firing weapons, period, no exceptions.


And yes, there are no basic rules preventing a model on a bike from gaining +1Attack if he is equipped with two single-handed weapons.

Thanks Yak!

The storm bolters on the MotRs jetbike are a choice you get to make. You can either fire his p-cannon (and risk the 1's as he's not a vehicle, and the unfortunate scatters at short range) or fire the s-bolters.

Yes, a MotF with bike and conversion beamer CAN move and fire with it (or his bikes weapons) - one OR the other to full effect - and still charge into assault as well.

Raon wrote:Also, Does this mean that theoretically you can have a Wolf Guard Battle Leader on a bike with a relentless plasma cannon or multimelta and a frostblade?

Nope, apparently GW have good foresight, the Wolf Guard Bodyguard rules say "Models armed with heavy weapons may not use any other weapons and cannot ride bikes." This would apply to the Battle Leader equally since he is taking the upgrade from that selection.

Ah didnt look at the listing in awhile, thanks for the clarification.