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I ran this list for 'ard boyz and got first in Qualifying round but got diced to death in 2nd game of Semi-finals.
now im running it for a tourney this weekend and im wondering what minor adjustments could be made?

Ghazghull-225
Big mek with KFF-90

15x Kommandos- Snikrot, 2x burnas-265

6x
----30x boyz-nob, PK, Bosspole-1320

3x
----3x deffkoptas-TL rokkits-405

3x
----3x big gunz-kannons, ammo runt-189



any thoughts?

Take out the Big Mek w KFF, you really don't have anything valuable for him to protect w the KFF. He can't keep up with the DeffKoptas and the Big Gunz aren't valuable enough to spend 90pts protecting them on (and you should be protecting them from return fire as much as possible anyway). MAYBE take those points and spend them on a Kanz squad or Deff Dread.

The big problem with this list is you have nothing to deal with heavily mechanized, shooty forces like Tau. Yes, your Nobz do have PKs but, w/o Trukks, it'll be hard to engage armour quickly w/o getting shot to pieces. Consider exchanging at least one Boyz Mob for some Lootas.

IIRC I thought Kommandos only get skorchas?

Rokkits on the boyz mobz? Maybe some vehicles as mobile LOS-blocking terrain?

What list and why did you lose?

dietrich wrote:Rokkits on the boyz mobz? Maybe some vehicles as mobile LOS-blocking terrain?

What list and why did you lose?

Rokkit-armed Boyz are a bad idea, for the simple reason that, at BS2, they cant hit .

Large vehicles on the Ork list (namely Looted Wagons and Battlewagons) are WAY too expensive for what they can give you.

What about lobbas? Replace the Big Mek/KFF with a generic warboss and use the points to add some lobbas! The deff koptas give you more than enough S8 shooting. Lobbas have the range and are barrage (G48"). Pinning and minimal cover saves...

i actually brought lots o' missiles for mech armies

9 TL rokkits on deffkoptaS
9 missiles in the form of grot batteries

and the big mek has earned way more than his point value in saving orks lives.


i fought against a largely deathguard army
basic army list is here:
nurgle daemon prince with wings
7 chaos terminators wtih MoN
5x 10 plague marines in rhinos
6 oblits


i swear i would have won (his army got his by 3 or 4 mobs at once) but he could not fail a damned save or FNP save. and when my PKs hit his termies they kept passing their invuln save!!!!!

Just a thought, why not 9x Killa Kans with Grotzookas instead of the 9x deffkoptas for the same amount of pts. They get a 4+ cover save from the KFF and with 9 of them you can probably hunt down tanks in tank heavy armies. Then against troops and horde armies Grotzookas seem like they would be most excellent.

i need long range tank-hunting power to take down speedy vehicles because kanz aint speedy and then i would have to sacrifice the big gunz in place of the heavy support slots.